Y&R November 2023 Discussion Thread

[Soapsuds]

I found a video of today's ending.

 

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[Contessa Donatella]

Which is so great! That may be a woman named Amy Reisenbach. 

[lucaslesann23]

@Soapsudsslightly off topic, Colleen said on ATWT, there was ONE regime in the late 90s that did not like her. Who was writing and EPing at that time?

[Contessa Donatella]

EPs

October 1988 – May 1995 Laurence Caso

May 1995 – November 8, 1996 John Valente

November 11, 1996 – June 4, 1999 Felicia Minei Behr

June 7, 1999 – September 17, 2010 Christopher Goutman

HWs

January 1995 - January 31, 1996 Richard Culliton

February 1996 – December 1996 Stephen Black and Henry Stern

December 1996 – May 1997 Stephen Demorest, Mel Brez and Addie Walsh

May 1997 – fall 1997 Jessica Klein

Fall 1997 Stephen Demorest, Mel Brez and Addie Walsh

December 1997– February 1998 Addie Walsh

February 1998 – June 1999 Lorraine Broderick, Hal Corley and Addie Walsh (co-headwriters)

June 1999 – June 12, 2000 Leah Laiman and Carolyn Culliton (co-headwriter)

June 13, 2000 – July 2001 Hogan Sheffer, Carolyn Culliton, Hal Corley and Stephen Demorest (co-headwriters)

July 16, 2001 – September 2002 Hogan Sheffer, Jean Passanante and Carolyn Culliton

September 2002 – May 24, 2005 Hogan Sheffer and Jean Passanante

May 25, 2005 – October 17, 2007 Jean Passanante, Leah Laiman and Christopher Whitesell

October 2007 – January 24, 2008 Jean Passanante and Leah Laiman

January 25, 2008 – April 17, 2008 Christopher Goutman (2007 WGA strike)

April 18, 2008 - October 5, 2009J ean Passanante and Leah Laiman

October 6, 2009 - June 4, 2010 Jean Passanante and David Kreizman

June 7 - September 17, 2010 Jean Passanante and Lloyd Gold

We know it wasn't Hoagie & it wasn't Goutman, so that rules out one HW & one EP. I'm sure it wasn't Laurie Caso so there's another EP. Leaves John Valente & FMB. FMB came from ABC. We called her tenure the ABC-ification of ATWT. Black & Stern had no idea what they were doing. Les Moonves recommended them which shows that he didn't know what he was doing either. 1995 was when P&G did the executive shuffle & sent the EP from one show to another between AW & ATWT & GL. Jill went from GL to AW. Valente went from AW to ATWT. Laurie Caso after 40+ yrs with the company got left out in the cold. Who's left? And, it is some writer before Hoagie came in & Barbara was in good shape again! 

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Donna L. Bridges

[soapfan770]

I ended up FF’ing through some scenes lol couldn’t handle the screen chewing and non-performances of this Jordan mess.

@YRfan23 this whole thing reminded me of the Sarah Smythe story the show did in 2010, and that’s not a good thing.

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Nate and Audra totally should have staged takeover of Newman with Tucker in the absence of the Nemans.

A bit off to see Billy, Nate, and Audra fret in Crimson Lights when really it should have been Sharon, Summer and Adam while they filled in a clueless Abby.

 

[Joseph]

This Story makes Sarah seem good LOL it's just so bad, At least we had Tracey being A Bitch which I loved, but here this is a train wreck 

Also agree with The Rest, I wonder if Josh Griffith is overtired, he was Bad but not this bad! 

[Contessa Donatella]

Newbie here. Audra & Sally look & sound too much like each other. 

One more newbie impression: Judith Chapman's Gloria has gone so far over the top that I think she's come out the other side! 

Edited November 30, 2023 by Donna L. Bridges

[lucaslesann23]

I didn't find it "bad" just super campy. Like I half expected Ron Carlivati to take credit

[Jeff]

Edited November 30, 2023 by Jeff

[Paul Raven]

This Jordan/Eve plot has more holes in it than a bathhouse on  a Friday night in 1975!

How did Jordan get poison into the bottled water?

What happened with the private jet crew -are they just hanging around the airport?

Newman Security strikes again-the whole family heads out of town and nobody is alerted.

And the baby switch- wouldn't the parents of the dead baby missing a baby?

If Eve was sickly wouldn't she be under strict observation. How would Jordan gain access? And how could she look after a very ill infant?

[Mona Kane Croft]

They should have made Jordan a former nurse, that would explain the hospital access, caring for a sickly baby, and at least a little about administering the poison.  They could have explained that over the years, she had been fired from multiple hospitals for doing inappropriate things. They should have also had a throw away line about the private jet and the crew.  A few details similar to those thrown into the script here and there would make this plot much more believable.   

[janea4old]

Victoria, Victor, and Nick have been gone from Genoa City less than a day, maybe only a few hours. They took the private jet from Genoa City, Wisconsin to whatever airport is nearest to wherever Jordan lives in Oregon.  Jordan and Claire haven't changed clothes since Jordan's first appearance.   This sequence of luring, traveling, capture, poisoning, stabbing, antidote, police arrival, and arrest ... has played out in a few hours of character time.

wtf?

Edited November 30, 2023 by janea4old

[Contessa Donatella]

Well, I think Colleen called it when she said this story was about to steamroll the show. 

[Soapsuds]

Thank you!

[Soapsuds]

Lorraine Broderick was HW and Felicia Behr was EP. Colleen said she didn't care for them and were the worst. She mentioned they never wrote for Barbara. They were also the team that fired Liz Hubbard and Allison Rice.

Edited November 30, 2023 by Soapsuds