Srsly they changed the history.  The rape is canon.

Laura
https://www.soapcentral.com/days-of-our-lives/whoswho/laura.php

Bill
https://www.soapcentral.com/days-of-our-lives/whoswho/williamh.php

Mike
https://www.soapcentral.com/days-of-our-lives/whoswho/michael.php

Mickey
https://www.soapcentral.com/days-of-our-lives/whoswho/mickey.php
 

Edited October 9, 20232 yr by janea4old

8 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

One thing though, we got a little more evidence that what we all suspected about Alex may be true and I hope it is.

Oh boy, that was heavy-handed!  Did we need to literally see flashbacks to Theresa and the letters!  I expect she'll be musing aloud to herself in the town square later in the week about Alex being Victor's son when Nicole will happen by, and she'll cover by saying, "Alex got too much sun" (snort)

8 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

They spent years telling us about how she’s such a good mother, how she’s raising Tate on her own, etc., yet she barely gave him the time of day today.

This was exactly my issue.  What gives Brady the dominion to say how Tate is going to be punished?  Theresa sacrificed a lot to raise Tate, and today she's portrayed as if he's a burden.  And what kind of fire alarm causes $5,000 in damages?  Brady should call Sloan and get her to make a deal before accepting liability.  I mean, they sent their son there as an 8-year-old, and he came back 18, the least they could was discount the remodeling fees.

3 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

There are many past plots that could be mentioned in relation to current stories but are not so why bother with glossing over the Bill/Laura rape?

I thought the point of Maggie's dialogue was more about how Micky was devoted to Mike even after he found out that he was not his biological father.  The circumstances of Mike's conception has nothing to do with that relationship, nor was it ever an issue for Micky in terms of his affection toward his son.  Although, it might have been less controversial if she made the same point about Micky and ether Melissa (who at one point Linda tried to trick him into believing he was her father), or Sarah. 

Lastly, it is so silly that characters need excuses to go see each other.  IRL, who returns flowers to their son because they learned that they're not the grandmother.

Edited October 9, 20232 yr by j swift

8 minutes ago, j swift said:

This was exactly my issue.  What gives Brady the dominion to say how Tate is going to be punished?  Theresa sacrificed a lot to raise Tate, and today she's portrayed as if he's a burden.

That would add a pretty good dynamic to this storyline: that Tate is the way that he is because of the way his parents are.

@AbcNbc247 I think that's exactly where they're going.

Tate is going to get butt hurt when Theresa leaves town, and he'll rebel against Brady, which will cause Nicole to restrict Holly from dating him, but eventually he'll rescue Holly (or Nicole/Eric's baby), so Nicole will relent, and Brady will never be called out for missing most of the first 18 years of Tate's life in order to live in his father's spare room and chase girls that he loved in high school.

But, once again, I ask: Are Tate and Dick Van Dyke going to be roommates in Rachel's old room?  And wouldn't DVD be more comfortable back at his old place?

Edited October 9, 20232 yr by j swift

1 minute ago, j swift said:

@AbcNbc247 I think that's exactly where they're going.

Tate is going to get butt hurt when Theresa leaves town, and he'll rebel against Brady, which will cause Nicole to restrict Holly from dating him, but eventually he'll rescue Holly (or Nicole/Eric's baby), so Nicole will relent, and Brady will never be called out for missing most of the first 18 years of Tate's life in order to live in his father's spare room and chase girls that he loved in high school.

Well, I was hoping that it would all lead to Brady making some kind of change in his life, or at least growing up a little, but that all works too 😂😂

@AbcNbc247 But, if Kristen goes for the Black family trifecta and tries to seduce Tate, I might lose my lunch...😉3️⃣🛏️

Edited October 9, 20232 yr by j swift

Just now, j swift said:

@AbcNbc247 But, if Kristen goes for the Black family trifecta and tries to seduce Tate, I might lose my lunch...

Uggghhhh breakfast and dinner too 😂😂

She gave birth to him, so I was thinking they'd have like a Vivian/Philip kind of relationship.

22 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I was thinking they'd have like a Vivian/Philip kind of relationship.

Oh, do you mean the type of relationship where she never mentions him once he's an adult, until he's recast for the third time, and they need to remind the audience of his origin story? 😉

Edited October 9, 20232 yr by j swift

1 minute ago, j swift said:

Oh, do you mean the type of relationship where she never mentions him once he's an adult, until he's recast for the third time, and they need to remind the audience of his origin story? 🤔

Yeah lol

Tate finding out the circumstances of his birth could be a good story as well. It could make even messier than he already is.

In addition to the Bill & Laura LIE we were fed, we got this LOL lie from Leo: that he resorts to humor to cover for how much he hates himself.

Jesus. This Leo propping is pathetic and laughable. Leo is SCUM, and we've never been given the idea of and reasons for any self-loathing.

He's a selfish, egocentric, narcissistic POS.

So Holly has a crush on Johnny. Interesting. 

I wonder if she’s going to be able to pose a threat for him and Chanel, but it definitely could be an obstacle for her and Tate. I hope they run with it and play it out for a while. Too many times, this team has lost interest in actors and characters and I’d hate to see that happen again. Like it did for Tripp/Wendy, Stefan/Gabi and Chad/Stephanie. 

The actress seems ok so far. I’m looking forward to seeing Holly interact with other people. I hope she and Tate are not just kept in a bubble.

She looks like Sabrina Carpenter. And Tate looks like William Lipton lol 

I like the Abe/Nicole scene too. Their relationship is one of the best things on the show right now. 

As for Alex/Theresa, I’ll pass. Maybe things will get different in the future lol 

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

Jesus. This Leo propping is pathetic and laughable. Leo is SCUM, and we've never been given the idea of and reasons for any self-loathing.

He's a selfish, egocentric, narcissistic POS.

Agree 100%

Edited October 10, 20232 yr by AbcNbc247

19 hours ago, janea4old said:

Srsly they changed the history.  The rape is canon.

Laura
https://www.soapcentral.com/days-of-our-lives/whoswho/laura.php

Bill
https://www.soapcentral.com/days-of-our-lives/whoswho/williamh.php

Mike
https://www.soapcentral.com/days-of-our-lives/whoswho/michael.php

Mickey
https://www.soapcentral.com/days-of-our-lives/whoswho/mickey.php
 

Rape only matters when Carlivati wants it to fit his agenda.

For anyone curious, @JAS0N47  just posted the original scripts from February 1968 when Bill rapes Laura and the immediate aftermath.
On the "Days behind the scenes" thread [ link to post ]

@janea4old & @Liberty City Reports of rape erasure seem to not fit the actual scene.

Maggie's analogy was that when Micky found out that he wasn't Mike's father, he still loved him as a son, just as Justin should love Alex regardless of whether he is his biological father. 

The circumstances of Mike's conception has nothing to do with the validity of that point.  She didn't say that Mike was the product of Bill and Laura's later affair, she just mentioned Micky finding out later that he wasn't Mike's father. 

As I mentioned, it might have been less controversial if she mentioned Sarah or Melissa's relationship with Micky, but it is the same idea, and it would've been an imperfect analogy because Micky always knew he wasn't their biological father.

Edited October 10, 20232 yr by j swift

I think @j swift is right in that regard. That is what Maggie was going for.

They would have been better off if they had Maggie just say to Justin that Mickey also found out that his son wasn’t his after years of raising him, and not mentioned Bill and Laura at all. 

1 hour ago, janea4old said:

For anyone curious, @JAS0N47  just posted the original scripts from February 1968 when Bill rapes Laura and the immediate aftermath.
On the "Days behind the scenes" thread [ link to post ]

Great read!

Thanks @JAS0N47