10 hours ago, carolineg said:

Lol! Thanks @Taoboi for the tag!  I do feel like it's 2002 again.  But I am in agreement with @Vee.   It sort of sounds like Vanessa being Vanessa and trying to get herself back on the show.  It's clear she's game.  The question is how much does FV dislike her and her antics?  She had to do something big to piss him off this bad.   It's been an entire decade of no Brenda...  It's a big enough return to confirm and the show has always pimped her returns to high heaven so if she appears on my screen I will eat my words and drop dead from shock, but I find it doubtful.

See? Already at a page after the tag.  Showing the power of BRENDA. 

But going into what I'm saying...FV is very good...even at ego aside...at what works for an anniversary. So I do expect Brenda or at least Luke to show up. But it being kept under wraps.

 

I will eat crow if I'm wrong of course, I just feel one, the other, or both, is inevitable.

 

And we all know I want her to ride off into the sunset if the show is cancelled so  

6 hours ago, ironlion said:

 

That is true, most of the characters for Brenda to play off of are gone. Jason, AJ, Robin, Jax.

But that's the thing. Even with them gone, Brenda STILL has enough connections to make it work...and even make new connections...which again makes it work.

 

We all can see her landing at Deception and it writes itself from Sasha to a silly feud with Maxie/Lucy or both to running afoul of Ms. Wu. And THAT is ONLY Deception. Off the top of my head. I know all of us can think of more storyline.  

 

 

5 hours ago, Taoboi said:

See? Already at a page after the tag.  Showing the power of BRENDA. 

But going into what I'm saying...FV is very good...even at ego aside...at what works for an anniversary. So I do expect Brenda or at least Luke to show up. But it being kept under wraps.

 

I will eat crow if I'm wrong of course, I just feel one, the other, or both, is inevitable.

 

And we all know I want her to ride off into the sunset if the show is cancelled so  

But that's the thing. Even with them gone, Brenda STILL has enough connections to make it work...and even make new connections...which again makes it work.

 

We all can see her landing at Deception and it writes itself from Sasha to a silly feud with Maxie/Lucy or both to running afoul of Ms. Wu. And THAT is ONLY Deception. Off the top of my head. I know all of us can think of more storyline.  

 

 

I see why people think Brenda doesn't have a ton of current connections, but it would take very little work to connect her to the canvas.  It's not as if she doesn't know most of the cast she just didn't interact with them that much.   For a better or worse, the fact she is so closely tied to Sonny opens up pretty much everyone to her.  All you have to say is Deception needs a boost and they are bringing back the original Face of Deception to help with buzz.  The only thing I would wonder about is who to pair her with.  No one besides Sonny seems like the right choice.  I guess you could try her with Drew.

14 hours ago, John said:

On Joss : FV wants her to be Starr Manning. Issue is that Starr actually had personality and this is nothing about Eden its how they write Joss. 

Starr Manning didn't have a personality beyond the age of 8. Joss is annoying as hell but she definitely has a personality, she's abrasive and argumentative and selfish. She's basically Carly without the little lost girl backstory to elicit sympathy (or the talent of SJB to carry where the backstory couldn't). 

If Brenda returned and was able to exist as a character outside of the albatross that is Brenda&Sonny and the neverending triangle (which is happily forever *fingers crossed* dead because Ingo is never coming back) I'd welcome her back. But I will not tolerate Sonny and Brenda crying and haranguing over the same issues they had 30 years ago 5 days a week. 

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The only thing I remember hearing is that she was a diva on set around the 50th anniversary.  Something about not wanting to dress up for the cast photo and she isn't in formal attire, but the dress she was wearing to talk to Sonny in when you look at the official photos.

Doesn't VM have some kind of medical condition and that's why she was always wearing blouses with long sleeves? Maybe that's why she didn't want to dress up 

2 hours ago, Darn said:

Starr Manning didn't have a personality beyond the age of 8.

14 or so, to be fair.*

I think there is plenty to do without Sonny for Brenda. But I would re-pair her with Sonny, have them carefully and slowly work through their issues and his renouncing the mob (mostly), and they would be the Victor/Nikki or Mac/Rachel senior supercouple and that would be it. There is no other plausible romantic story left for either of them when the other is around, not since 2011 and not now. No more triangles, no more outsiders, no more break-ups. Victoria Wyndham(?) knew when to put her foot down about that at AW and she was right. VM would take the lion's share of story and Sonny would be relegated to Victor-esque white-collar schemes. Anyway, we've all talked about this many times.

Edited March 22, 20232 yr by Vee

5 hours ago, Darn said:

Starr Manning didn't have a personality beyond the age of 8. Joss is annoying as hell but she definitely has a personality, she's abrasive and argumentative and selfish. She's basically Carly without the little lost girl backstory to elicit sympathy (or the talent of SJB to carry where the backstory couldn't). 

 

13 hours ago, carolineg said:

I see why people think Brenda doesn't have a ton of current connections, but it would take very little work to connect her to the canvas.  It's not as if she doesn't know most of the cast she just didn't interact with them that much.   For a better or worse, the fact she is so closely tied to Sonny opens up pretty much everyone to her.  All you have to say is Deception needs a boost and they are bringing back the original Face of Deception to help with buzz.  The only thing I would wonder about is who to pair her with.  No one besides Sonny seems like the right choice.  I guess you could try her with Drew.

I know!!! Outside of Sonny, she is sooo easy to drop into any storyline because she knows EVERYBODY. Outside of Sonny, a love interest would be an interesting question. Cody? *shivers*

 

As for Vanessa, I wouldn't put it past her to film a brief cameo a la Jax's exit back in the day. Or a vision of some sort. 

 

 

 

19 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I know!!! Outside of Sonny, she is sooo easy to drop into any storyline because she knows EVERYBODY. Outside of Sonny, a love interest would be an interesting question. Cody? *shivers*

 

As for Vanessa, I wouldn't put it past her to film a brief cameo a la Jax's exit back in the day. Or a vision of some sort. 

 

 

 

I had the Cody thought but he seems so basic.  I am literally struggling to think of people on canvas for her outside Dante which feels so messy to me. Drew is the only one I could think of but I guess you could waste her on Roger or Easton

There's no need. It's Sonny, end of.

I am in the minority in that I kind of like Cody. Like I keep saying, there are worse characters and concepts on the show than Josh Kelly playing a hunky stablehand who is related to Mac. Dump the Dominique thing and you have plenty to do with him to let him be the handsome stud for any number of women (like single mom Liz having a nonserious fling with him, something I think I've talked about it). His introduction was ugly and botched but as he is, I don't see an issue.

6 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I had the Cody thought but he seems so basic.  I am literally struggling to think of people on canvas for her outside Dante which feels so messy to me. Drew is the only one I could think of but I guess you could waste her on Roger or Easton

Dante did come to mind, but no...I would play it for the messiness coming from the history, but I don't want it serious.

 

Would Brenda be interested in a doctor? And the less said about Austin...the better.

 

Cody...basic. Ha! 

6 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

Dante did come to mind, but no...I would play it for the messiness coming from the history, but I don't want it serious.

 

Would Brenda be interested in a doctor? And the less said about Austin...the better.

 

Cody...basic. Ha! 

Idk, Cody just seems like such a bland 40 ish character.  And not that Jax wasn't mildly bland, but he was at least super rich and the most extra with his wealth and gifts.  I just don't see Brenda being into Doctors.  Like there needs to be a slightly sexy mob boss in the rain not named Sonny that enters the building.

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

Like there needs to be a slightly sexy mob boss in the rain not named Sonny that enters the building.

 

I definitely she needs an element of dan...I mean sexy, but Chase is waaay too young for her. But that would be some drama. 

2 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

 

I definitely she needs an element of dan...I mean sexy, but Chase is waaay too young for her. But that would be some drama. 

I didn't realize the actor that played Chase was born in 1992 until a few days ago because I would have entered him into the chat.  Like I legit think we need to get BB back to play Johnny Z because that would be the route for me.

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

I didn't realize the actor that played Chase was born in 1992 until a few days ago because I would have entered him into the chat.  Like I legit think we need to get BB back to play Johnny Z because that would be the route for me.

Oh how Sonny's head would explode.

 

Perfect. hehe.

I just don't see a need to squire Brenda around with a bunch of random dudes at this point. No man on the canvas is a match for her now, even Sonny isn't but that is where the fanbase is, that is where the money is, it's where the audience and potentially even a numbers bump is so reunite them, do it right, humble him for her and keep it moving. Nobody is here to watch Brenda with Chase or Cody or Dante or Johnny or Swinging Dick X or anyone else any more than they were over a decade ago.

Edited March 23, 20232 yr by Vee