Jump to content

Beyond Salem Chapter 2 Discussion Thread


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 339
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Members

Ron Carlivati was a guest at Digest's Podcast & I go sometimes to keep up with Steph & Mara:

Talked about Al wanting PR on the mothership which would be a tactical problem because PR lives in Alaska. Ron countered with what about having PR on Beyond Salem. Al jumped up & down. Then they thought they needed KA & asked her if she was interested & she wanted to know what the story was, so, Ron thought up a story & told it to her & she liked it so she was in. They went this whole way rolling like they do & just kept adding people to the roster & writing the story as they went. Referred to Harris as SBurton playing a Jason Bourne character. (I love Jason Bourne & Steve Burton is no Jason Bourne!) That he was reprising his original role, was just a little old thing of not very many appearances. Mara liked this because she considered it as a love letter to veteran fans & she thinks soaps should regularly be presenting their long time fans with love letters like this show. (I think she's right.) Steph thinks she's right. They ask themselves the question, "Who is this story being written for?" In Beyond Salem the show is celebrating & drawing upon its rich history. It behooves the shows to give the fans actors that the fans care about. They made an example about the Chin family. They got to the Emmys. Ron was unusually nervous all day. People kept telling him that he had a 50/50 chance of winning. (Nominated for both the mothership & Beyond Salem.) That just made Ron think, Well, yeah, cupcake, but that is also a 50/50 chance of losing!) So, he wrote two speeches & put them both on his phone. He was sitting in front with Al, Ken & Suzanne. He was on auto-pilot. Time passed. It was great seeing people that he hadn't seen in awhile. That part is always great! GH won many awards & DOOL had won bupkus, nil, zip, nada. Kelly Campbell from Peacock had come to the show to support them. The year before Ron had submitted the same reel/s to WGA & to NATAS & won WGA with it & didn't even get a nod from the Emmys. All of a sudden they called his name. Autopilot again! He's sure people could tell he was very nervous. He was! He was especially happy that Betsy Snyder's work was awarded the win. (She's a long time soap writer who died in 2021.) As soon as Beyond Salem 1 had been streamed Peacock reached out wanting another one & wanting it fast, which DOOL couldn't do. So, they suggested a one-off Christmas special & then later in the calendar year another Beyond. That was as much of the Podcast as I could do.
 
Earlier I tweeted: Hope & Bo were reunited in heaven today so the promise that they would be reunited has now been fulfilled. Hope was told by Bo that he would be with her in spirit always but that when it is her time they will be together forever. Then he sent her back to earth. Not her time.
 
And:
This is what DOOL is good at, that it has always been good at, & that it once was known for, not for gimmicks! Bless them for spending the bucks! "Tonight, I celebrate my love for you." #BeyondSalem2
 
And, look at the great picture of Boom Boom I saw! DOOL is trending, LOTS of pix!
 

Please register in order to view this content

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

It's funny to hear Ron say he didn't wanna do season two when they first asked because he didn't have enough time to prepare. Watching BS2, I didn't get the feel that a ton of thought was put into this either. It was fun seeing Bo and Hope again (and Paul), but overall I felt this was weak. The one thing I liked is that they created a lot of strands that can continue on the main show like Wendy/Joey, Paul/Andrew, Megan, etc. I'm excited to see what they do with those loose threads, but overall I wish they'd take this show more seriously. 

I hope that if another soap gets the chance at a spin-off that they treat it as an actual limited series. Most limited series have 6-8 episodes, so they could easily tell a really well written story with a small amount of characters and give us good drama. I wish they'd do that instead of trying to cram so many characters in and so many locations into 5 episodes. If I had control over BS3, I'd do a Sami centered story set outside of Salem. They can't get Allison for long stretches, so that could be a good way to tell a story over a 5 episode period that's wrapped up. Of course they'd have to change the pacing and write the episodes like a primetime show to allow passage of time, but I think that would be a more successful approach. Each season can't be about a peacock or a prism.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

With Ron talking about how it came about it seems as if they were rolling along & making up the story as they went! They wanted to do something with Peter & they worked that out & next they wanted to have Kristian in it & she wanted to know what the story was, so Ron wrote it! And, they went along like that till they had a limited Edition piece.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I'm curious if Beyond Salem 3 will be the conclusion to BS2 or it will be a new premise? But if it is a new one, they need to ditch all the "locales" and focus on maybe one or two central places i.e., Los Angeles and London so the stories and plots can flow better. 

Edited by Forever8
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I agree - I don't see why they need so many characters + locations. BSII would've been better if they had just focused on the Bo/Hope and Megan story. This was way too bloated for five episodes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

From the way that Ron Carlivati talks about their putting together the who - what - where, etc. of BS1 and BS2 I think they count the various locales & the groupings of people as foundational & basic to what they're doing. At the same time when he talks about their process, it seems very organic. Bottom line, though I would guess they are most attentive to what Peacock asks for! (He did a chat with Michael Fairman last week & yesterday he was the guest at the Digest weekly podcast. A lot can be gleaned from listening to him talk about it.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • I feel like Vernon and Anita need to not be hypocrites and try and take the heat off Bill in this case. It's clear that the family used him as a fixer and especially knowing he helped with Martin's situation, they need to either be quiet or support him. BTW...with Vanessa being in the hospital for food poisoning, am I the only one who thought Shanice was gonna say she's pregnant or had an STD? The only reason I say STD is because she hasn't had any memorable sex partners, but I definitely don't believe she just had food poisoning.
    • Yeah, I mean I know that the name still pertains. I just laugh at it not now being called Arizona Dust, but, I admit it simply does not have the same ring to it. Above, that is interesting that Arizona had already come up before the crisis. 
    • Leslie and her family are from Chicago? Anita's background also includes being a former Chi-Town native? Might they connect this and go somewhere with it?
    • Honestly who's to say Leslie even birthed Eva, I mean she's a liar, I wouldn't believe a word she says about Eva being Ted's(or hers)
    •   1. 11/1/83 cast/set list:  

      Please register in order to view this content

          The "11/2/83" video you posted of Ruth Buzzi's scenes includes Roman and Hope in them, meaning the video you posted is actually 11/1/83, since Roman and Hope aren't in 11/2/83.   2. The video you posted of "11/2/83" has scenes with Roman and Hope. As you can see from my cast/set list, Roman and Hope are not in the 11/2/83 episode (see above note):   4573...11/2/83: Cast: Mickey, Julie, Doug, Maggie, Neil, Don, Marie, Alex, Liz, Andre as Tony, Gwen, Chris, Eugene, Sandy, Letitia, Charlene, Mrs. Whiting, Wanda/Guard, Dave, Delia, Saleslady # 1, Saleslady # 2, Figure in Dark, Raven/animal, Cats/animals, Birds/animals.   2.  11/3/83 :My video collection starts with 11/4/83. so I don't have the 11/1/83 or 11/3/83 video, but in addition to the cast/set list for 11/3/83, here is also the parking clearance call sheet for that day, showing Ruth was not only in the cast/set list but did work that day:     They even had hired the animal trainer and all the animals for the day, so It's sort of a certainty that her scenes were not cut that day, or it would have been a big waste of the budget. 3. As for 11/7/83, I just fast-forwarded through that whole episode myself. Letitia is in it from start to finish. It's her big final episode where she is killed. She starts the episode saying "Eugene, are you there?" In the next act, Marlena shows up and meets Letitia's lion. Later in the episode, Letitia is killed by "Eugene" (the Salem Slasher in a Eugene mask).   So, as we can see from your own post, the 11/2/83 date you have listed on that video is incorrect, since Hope and Roman are in that video but not in the 11/2/83 episode.It seems the dates you have on all your early November 1983 episodes are incorrect.   When you post videos and suggest that my data is incorrect, do you not first compare who is in the scenes and see if that matches who is in the episode? You didn't do that with the "11/2/83" episode, which based on Roman and Hope being in it means that is actually 11/1/83. Best to do something like that first before suggesting my data and research is incorrect.
    • Within the Dupree family, I predict Vernon/Anita will be conflicted about what to do about Bill and his role in the whole Ted/Silk Press Sheila situation... especially since Bill knows where the particular bone about Martin is buried. Dani, Chelsea, and Naomi's reactions to what Bill possibly did isn't hard to guess.. but Hayley's reactions will be interesting to hear.  Especially given her recent pregnancy scare.. she might not be so much on Bill's side, or she'll totally surprise us and be totally on Bill's side.   Either way, I think Martin's secret will be the main focus in May sweeps.. with the fall out of the Eva secret playing out in the background... while the Joey/Vanessa/Doug thing continues to boil/develop.
    • Hotel was The Love Boat on land but a little soapier. I will forever maintain that Hotel was a time slot hit. I don't believe that 1983/84 Hotel was a better show than Knots Landing.
    • The Golden Girls key episodes by ratings September 14, 1985: The Engagement (series premiere), rating 25.0, #1 Season highs February 22, 1986: Adult Education, rating 25.2 October 4, 1986: Ladies of the Evening, rating 27.3 November 8, 1986: Isn't it Romantic, rating 27.3 February 6, 1988: My Brother, My Father; rating 24.6 November 26, 1988: Sophia's Wedding (Part 2), rating 24.3, #1 September 23, 1989: Sick and Tired (Part 1) (season 5 premiere), rating 23.5 January 12, 1991: Sisters of the Bride, rating 19.3 May 9, 1992: One Flew Out of the Cuckoo's Nest (series finale), rating 18.9 Season lows October 19, 1985: The Triangle, rating 18.6 May 16, 1987: Empty Nests (season 2 finale), rating 17.8 February 20, 1988: And Ma Makes Three, rating 18.0 April 29, 1989: Rites of Spring, rating 18.7 April 28, 1990: All Bets are Off, rating 15.8 February 16, 1991: Older and Wiser, rating 11.6 October 26, 1991: Mother Load, rating 10.9 Ten highest-rated episodes October 4, 1986: Ladies of the Evening, rating 27.3 November 8, 1986: Isn't it Romantic, rating 27.3 January 3, 1987: The Sisters, rating 27.0 November 22, 1986: Family Affair, rating 26.8 January 10, 1987: The Stan Who Came to Dinner, rating 26.6 January 24, 1987: Before and After, rating 26.4 February 28, 1987: Whose Face is This, Anyway?; rating 25.8 September 27, 1986: End of the Curse (season 2 premiere), rating 25.6 November 15, 1986: Big Daddy's Little Lady, rating 25.3 February 22, 1986: Adult Education, rating 25.2 Ten lowest-rated episodes October 26, 1991: Mother Load, rating 10.9 September 28, 1991: The Case of the Libertine Belle, rating 10.9 October 19, 1991: Where's Charlie?, rating 11.0 February 15, 1992: Ebbtide VI: The Wrath of Stan, rating 11.3 February 16, 1991: Older and Wiser, rating 11.6 December 14, 1991: The Pope's Ring, rating 11.7 April 25, 1992: Home Again, Rose (Part 1); rating 12.3 October 5, 1991: Beauty and the Beast, rating 12.7 November 2, 1991: Dateline: Miami, rating 12.7 December 7, 1991: From Here to the Pharmacy, rating 12.8
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy