5 hours ago, carolineg said:

This is why flashbacks would be helpful.  Even just to give us a hint of some context or interactions.  There have been none of Renee.  If the show can't afford flashbacks of PS or these actors then the story should have been scrapped.  Even the Possession story got a great deal of flashbacks to set it up and the devil possession is much more famous, more recent, and objectively much easier to understand. 

The Renee story isn't very easy to understand and the show is using a few moments of exposition from a select group of characters to try to explain it.  And Jamey Giddens is filling in the gaps poorly on twitter.  I don't know the median age of Days viewers anymore, but I assume at least a good portion (like myself) weren't born when Renee was on the show.  I can't see them being able to understand it without having to look up the character on the internet.  I don't think a viewer should have to do homework to be able to enjoy a story.  Outside of it being awful, the name dropping (Don, Alex, David, etc) isn't very relevant and like you said a bunch of characters lost in time for the most part.

So by your logic Roger and Holly should've never returned to GL in '89 because they were ancient history and the show was 95 percent different cast characters.

3 minutes ago, Spoon said:

I agree but that's what flashbacks are for.

They probably don’t want to pay royalties for actors no longer on the show, hence no old flashbacks. Which begs the question - why bother at all then? 

2 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

They probably don’t want to pay royalties for actors no longer on the show, hence no old flashbacks. Which begs the question - why bother at all then? 

True, too cheap.  If you can't  do a story right don't even try.  I think a plethora of flashbacks would've made the story work as it has potential.

1 hour ago, Spoon said:

So by your logic Roger and Holly should've never returned to GL in '89 because they were ancient history and the show was 95 percent different cast characters.

It's two completely different things lol.  PS/Renee aren't returning it's Sarah as Renee lol!  Explain to me how you compare it?

9 hours ago, carolineg said:

I don't know the median age of Days viewers anymore, but I assume at least a good portion (like myself) weren't born when Renee was on the show.  I can't see them being able to understand it without having to look up the character on the internet.  I don't think a viewer should have to do homework to be able to enjoy a story.

Well, at the very least, DAYS could run promos during commercial breaks: "Want to know MORE about Renee DiMera?  Go to NBC.com/DAYS and read all about her wild adventures in Salem!  You can even watch hand-selected clips and see what Renee [shot of PS], Tony [shot of TP], Anna [shot of LH] and everyone else [brief clips of other characters from that period] was up to back in the day!"

8 hours ago, carolineg said:

her parents aren't alive

Wait, did they kill off Lee?

2 hours ago, carolineg said:

It's two completely different things lol.  PS/Renee aren't returning it's Sarah as Renee lol!  Explain to me how you compare it?

You can't explain it, because it doesn't compare.  Spoon's just pissed that hardly anyone else on this board thinks this Sarenee [!@#$%^&*] is gold just because it's showing off itself by dropping old character names.

4 hours ago, Faulkner said:

That’s the thing: so many writers/journalists/critics who ostensibly cover the industry are secretly angling to worm their way in themselves. They’ll pull their punches on the people they want to work with eventually. Can’t burn those bridges with negative coverage.

It's sad, especially since he isn't even that talented.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

Well, at the very least, DAYS could run promos during commercial breaks: "Want to know MORE about Renee DiMera?  Go to NBC.com/DAYS and read all about her wild adventures in Salem!  You can even watch hand-selected clips and see what Renee [shot of PS], Tony [shot of TP], Anna [shot of LH] and everyone else [brief clips of other characters from that period] was up to back in the day!"

Wait, did they kill off Lee?

You can't explain it, because it doesn't compare.  Spoon's just pissed that hardly anyone else on this board thinks this Sarenee [!@#$%^&*] is gold just because it's showing off itself by dropping old character names.

The story isn't  great but l will take history in any form.  Jamey had lots of great ideas in his podcast referencing history and all that. To me the main draw of soaps in the continuity.  I think Saranee is crap but I really do appreciate name dropping.

3 hours ago, carolineg said:

It's two completely different things lol.  PS/Renee aren't returning it's Sarah as Renee lol!  Explain to me how you compare it?

It's referencing show history, that's how I see it.

28 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

It's sad, especially since he isn't even that talented.

He had great ideas on his podcast and it's great to see someone who loves the genre be able to contribute to the medium.

I'm not defending the Renee story, I'm  defending Jamey and using a shows deep history.  I appreciate deep cuts, even if I wasn't  watching back then.

 

1 minute ago, Khan said:

 

Agree to disagree, no hard feelings man!

Just now, Spoon said:

Agree to disagree, no hard feelings man!

Exactly.  I respect your opinion(s) on this subject, but I just can't see it the same way you do.  Sorry.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

Well, at the very least, DAYS could run promos during commercial breaks: "Want to know MORE about Renee DiMera?  Go to NBC.com/DAYS and read all about her wild adventures in Salem!  You can even watch hand-selected clips and see what Renee [shot of PS], Tony [shot of TP], Anna [shot of LH] and everyone else [brief clips of other characters from that period] was up to back in the day!"

Wait, did they kill off Lee?

You can't explain it, because it doesn't compare.  Spoon's just pissed that hardly anyone else on this board thinks this Sarenee [!@#$%^&*] is gold just because it's showing off itself by dropping old character names.

Perfect.  That would be great to at least give the viewer some insight.

I just assume Lee is dead.  I don't think it's ever been mentioned, but with BB's passing I always just thought they wouldn't touch it.

Lol!  I was trying to rack my brain to figure out how MZ and MG returning after 10 years is the same as LG faux playing Renee after 40 years.

19 minutes ago, Spoon said:

It's referencing show history, that's how I see it.

Referencing history is the Devil saying Belle was the product of passion and infidelity.  True facts.

Maligning history is what this Sarah/Renee story is doing.  Just my opinion.

12 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I just assume Lee is dead.  I don't think it's ever been mentioned, but with BB's passing I always just thought they wouldn't touch it.

They probably wouldn't, given the circumstances surrounding BB's death.  Then again, this is the show that saw nothing wrong with using the late Macdonald Carey's disembodied face to scare the bejeezus out of Marlena.

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14 minutes ago, Khan said:

They probably wouldn't, given the circumstances surrounding BB's death.  Then again, this is the show that saw nothing wrong with using the late Macdonald Carey's disembodied face to scare the bejeezus out of Marlena.

Yep Next someone will channel Lee & be in love with Doug

4 minutes ago, John said:

Yep Next someone will channel Lee & be in love with Doug

It won't be someone.  It'll be Gabi.  That way, Ron Carlivati can rehash her feud with Julie.

1 minute ago, Khan said:

It won't be someone.  It'll be Gabi.  That way, Ron Carlivati can rehash her feud with Julie.

Then we we critique Ron C will come for our heads