50 minutes ago, Costello said:

We certainly don’t need more singing shows, but if someone managed to put a more authentic twist on the format, I’d watch. 

 

How about a show that searches for "The Best Worst Singer in America"?  ;)

3 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

How about a show that searches for "The Best Worst Singer in America"?

Ha. Do you remember Superstar USA?

 

 

Nope.  

Edited November 30, 20187 yr by Khan

14 hours ago, Costello said:

When “reality” is done well, it can be wonderful. I love The Great British Bakeoff and Terrace House. RuPaul’s Drag Race has seemingly lost something as its profile has grown, but at its peak, it was up there with the best shows on TV. 

 

Too often producers focus too much on the concept and not the content. And we’re subjected to way too many copycats. We certainly don’t need more singing shows, but if someone managed to put a more authentic twist on the format, I’d watch. 

 

I think the category of what constitutes a "Reality" show is too broad.  To me, The GBB is more of a docu-series/service show, rather than the lightly scripted fare of The Real Housewives or KUWTK.  Then you have competitive shows like ANTM, RuPaul's Drage Race, etc. that have more of a game show element to it.  

Just like sitcoms have single camera and multicamera and dramas have police procedurals, hospital dramas, mystery/detective shows and soap/continuing series distinctions, reality shows should also have different categories.

 

In any case, it seems as though there is a glut of each variety of reality television program and some paring back definitely needs to take place.

10 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

I think the category of what constitutes a "Reality" show is too broad.  To me, The GBB is more of a docu-series/service show, rather than the lightly scripted fare of The Real Housewives or KUWTK.  Then you have competitive shows like ANTM, RuPaul's Drage Race, etc. that have more of a game show element to it.  

Just like sitcoms have single camera and multicamera and dramas have police procedurals, hospital dramas, mystery/detective shows and soap/continuing series distinctions, reality shows should also have different categories.

 

In any case, it seems as though there is a glut of each variety of reality television program and some paring back definitely needs to take place.

I’d love to see more docuseries (and not the true crime stuff). I avoid their news programming, but CNN has actually done some decent ones with their decade reviews and The History of Comedy. 

Speaking of W&G, disastrous ratings last night for a new episode. A 0.6 to Murphy Brown’s 0.8. I’m sure they gain some with delayed viewing, but still.

https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-thursday-nov-29-2018/

16 hours ago, Khan said:

 

How about a show that searches for "The Best Worst Singer in America"?

Does Food Network having "Worst Cooks in America" count instead? LOL

5 hours ago, Costello said:

Speaking of W&G, disastrous ratings last night for a new episode. A 0.6 to Murphy Brown’s 0.8. I’m sure they gain some with delayed viewing, but still.

https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-thursday-nov-29-2018/

 

For as strong as NBC is Monday, Tues, & Wed, it's amazing how badly they bomb on Thursday nights. 

Reboots will probably hang around for a while.

There are still plenty of shows that could be retooled. They get a bit more attention because of it and there's always the chance something could take off.

 

Let's see

That Girl -young black aspiring actress heads to NY to seek fame and fortune

Odd Couple - slobby divorced gay guy moves in with prissy divorced straight guy

Barnaby Jones - older 40ish detective works with spunky 20 something  latina daughter in law to solve cases

 

 

Wasn't there recently an Odd Couple reboot with Matthew Perry?

Yes there have been a few over the years. But if there is some sort of name recognition and a dollar to be made...

 

Was reading an article recently on how the studios/networks are embracing the franchise model more than ever so they can do many spin offs under the one name umbrella.

Everyone’s snatching up IP like crazy. I’m surprised we haven’t heard of a new Dark Shadows reboot. That seems like a no-brainer even with the failed movie franchise.

Edited December 1, 20187 yr by Costello

 

On 11/29/2018 at 9:23 AM, WTGH said:

There's too much TV in general. 

 

With something like 500+ shows...it's insane! 

Yes, I have to agree with this. Too many shows means all of your talent is spread out. On one hand, you might have more shows that strike one's fancy. On the other hand, not too many shows can sustain success past a couple of seasons.

If I watched everything I was interested in from start to finish, I would not have any time for a career or a life. Once upon a time, watching two or three soaps five days a week seemed like a lot, but there are people out there watching the same amount of television in a day - maybe even two times over.

3 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Reboots will probably hang around for a while.

There are still plenty of shows that could be retooled. They get a bit more attention because of it and there's always the chance something could take off.

 

Let's see

That Girl -young black aspiring actress heads to NY to seek fame and fortune

Odd Couple - slobby divorced gay guy moves in with prissy divorced straight guy

Barnaby Jones - older 40ish detective works with spunky 20 something  latina daughter in law to solve cases

 

 

Kinda like what they did with One Day at a Time. I do like this type of thing. I still get a little annoyed because I feel as though they don't HAVE to produce it and sell it as a reboot or re-imagining of something else. You can take the tone and very general premise of something older and completely flip it around, do it well, and hopefully be successful.

For the last few years, I've wanted a "version" of That Girl that focuses on a young gay man with that same Ann Marie spirit and his stuffy, business-like boyfriend. For a looooooooong time, I have imagined a version of Little House on the Prairie set in the suburbs.

3 hours ago, Costello said:

Everyone’s snatching up IP like crazy. I’m surprised we haven’t heard of a new Dark Shadows reboot. That seems like a no-brainer even with the failed movie franchise.

Didn't the CW have one (youth based of course) that went to pilot?  But that was well over ten years ago I believe...  (Maybe it was UPN?  The WB?)

6 minutes ago, All My Shadows said:

 

If I watched everything I was interested in from start to finish, I would not have any time for a career or a life. Once upon a time, watching two or three soaps five days a week seemed like a lot, but there are people out there watching the same amount of television in a day - maybe even two times over.

Oh even more than that, from what I've seen...  As a kid when I'd tape Loving/AMC/OLTL and watch it zooming through the commercials, I could get through all three  in about an hour and forty minutes and be done before my parents were home from work after school, none the wiser . 

1 minute ago, EricMontreal22 said:

Didn't the CW have one (youth based of course) that went to pilot?  But that was well over ten years ago I believe...  (Maybe it was UPN?  The WB?)

It was The CW in 2004ish with Marley Shelton as Victoria, Blair Brown as Elizabeth, etc.

Dark Shadows is something that I'm always ready for an updated version of (let's ignore That Damned Movie). Peyton Place is another.