10 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

The regulations that the Obama administration put in place were mainly for preventing the mentally unstable from access to weapons but, given time, they may also have netted domestic abusers as well as people who were obsessed with wreaking havoc and death and others who were/are functioning at a level that is not considered to be at a normal baseline.

 

And you would think that anti-gun control advocates such as the NRA would be down for that.  "Yes," they might say, "by all means, keep the guns away from those who are ill-equipped to use them, so that those of us who ARE equipped won't have to use ours (to protect ourselves and our loved ones)!"  

 

Instead, it's as if the NRA admits that they're just as mentally unstable as people like Stephen Paddock and that restricting access for the mentally ill would be restricting access for them as well.

Edited October 2, 20178 yr by Khan

35 minutes ago, cassadine1991 said:

This was a terror attack. People were terrorized

 I see people say that a lot, but if there isn't some political aim (white nationalism, jihad, something) then how is it terrorism?  I don't really see the point of changing the commonly accepted meaning of the word.

5 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

 I see people say that a lot, but if there isn't some political aim (white nationalism, jihad, something) then how is it terrorism?  I don't really see the point of changing the commonly accepted meaning of the word.

How about the 2nd amendment with the NRA fueling their radical deadly behavior. I'm not far from seeing the NRA as a terrorist organization or at least a funder of one.

1 minute ago, JaneAusten said:

How about the 2nd amendment with the NRA fueling their radical deadly behavior. I'm not far from seeing the NRA as a terrorist organization or at least a funder of one.

I don't think the guys aim was standing up for gun rights do you? As far as we know this was a mass murder which is just not the same as terrorism.  I guess I'm missing something because I just don't get what calling incidents that are not politically motivated changes. Why does that word matter so much?  I can see it if it's a white nationalist and some won't use the word, but beyond that I don't get it.

11 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

I don't think the guys aim was standing up for gun rights do you? As far as we know this was a mass murder which is just not the same as terrorism.  I guess I'm missing something because I just don't get what calling incidents that are not politically motivated changes. Why does that word matter so much?  I can see it if it's a white nationalist and some won't use the word, but beyond that I don't get it.

I think it's more about wanting some type of equivalency.  And there is a lot of enablement by our leaders and the NRA of white males by ginning up all sorts of extremist rhetoric to make these people believe they need an arsenal to defend themselves. This guy had what 20-25 guns in various forms with him? We don't know, but it's hard for me I guess to fathom it was all about being angry over his divorce. 

White men should be banned from entering the United States until we figure out what the hell is going on.

49 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

I think it's more about wanting some type of equivalency.  And there is a lot of enablement by our leaders and the NRA of white males by ginning up all sorts of extremist rhetoric to make these people believe they need an arsenal to defend themselves. This guy had what 20-25 guns in various forms with him? We don't know, but it's hard for me I guess to fathom it was all about being angry over his divorce. 

That makes sense.  I wish I could believe this tragedy would wake people up.

5 minutes ago, Eric83 said:

White men should be banned from entering the United States until we figure out what the hell is going on.

Can we build a wall around them?

"LOCK! THEM! UP!"

 

j/k

 

 

BREAKING: Brother says Las Vegas shooter was multi-millionaire real estate investor.

— The Associated Press (@AP) October 2, 2017

7 hours ago, Eric83 said:

White men should be banned from entering the United States until we figure out what the hell is going on.

 

+1 (except for my honey and Russell Crowe)

Due to the guidelines of Nevada laws, this is considered a terrorist attack 

The NRA wants a bill passed that allows silencers on guns. If it wasn't for the noise of this gun, there would have more people killed than already were

 

 *tears* this stranger held a man as he was dying. She stayed with him the whole time and even talked to his mother on the phone. I'm crying my eyes out watching it

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/us/las-vegas-survivor-stranger-died-cnntv/index.html?sr=twCNN100317las-vegas-survivor-stranger-died-cnntv0200PMVODtop

I read this and am still perplexed at the people who don't know what set this guy off. I read it and immediately saw controlling, anal, [!@#$%^&*] white guy who was probably pissed the world is changing around him. Same people don't see why there is an opioid problem or why suicides in white male circles have been the highest in the last 15 years

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/us/stephen-paddock-vegas.html