2 hours ago, Darn said:

I hope they just let Victoria continue to be an absolute malcontent.

 

+1.

She plays dreary & miserable really well!

17 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

@cattykittens was it your suggestion that Chance return?  How old is Chance? That might be a good one.

 

I've been saying for ages (along with a lot of other posters) that Jill ought to be actively running CI- one of the many reasons is that being the longest running character on Y&R and having her entire adult story of up from working class origins play out onscreen, Jill should be a prominent character. As a character who has business savvy and experience, she should be captain of industry with every bit as much of a central role as Victor or Jack.

 

Chance being her grandson and a Chancellor would  be a good way to strengthen that legacy. Chance being a veteran, there could definitely be a chance for good meaningful relevant conversations with Scotty, if they've both been to the Middle East.

It would be interesting to Chance transition into civilian life, if he hasn't already and take on responsibility at CI. And it would be a great opportunity to have Nina return, even for brief storyline arcs, perhaps she and Jill can mix it up if Nina feels Jill is putting too much too soon on Chance, while Jill feels that, veteran that Chance is, can surely handle the pressures of corporate life.

On the romantic life, there could be good opportunity for a character like Mariah or even Abby but Mariah tends to have ready chemistry with most characters (except Kevin) but Chance could mingle with everyone.

 

The only problem is, I don't trust these writers to do right by these characters or tell their stories very well.

 

 

Great ideas! I keep forgetting that Jill and Lauren's offspring is related so I didn't even think about Scotty and his connections with Chance. Did Scotty and Billy meet yet?

 

I think Chance could be cast as mid to late 20s.

 

I trust these writers more than any other in the last 10 years. They understand the history in the 70s and 80s so the older characters feel more like themselves. I think they run into problems because of all the damage done since 2005. It's hard to write around, and reversing some of the ret-cons could make things worse at this point.

 

I'd love to see Jill as a captain of industry. It's time we see a woman own, and run a corporation like CI, that's just as important as Jabot and Newman. It's something Katherine was never able to be since she really wasn't much of a businesswoman, she just hired others to run CI for her.

1 hour ago, tune_in_tomorrow said:

Even if it DID occur onscreen, you can't be sure it existed either. Writers seem to enjoy un-doing what we've seen before, assuming they acknowledge it happened at all.

 

True. Writers of this genre sure a quick to resort to an atrocious re-write, especially if it suits their (often temporary) purposes.

When it's onscreen though, at least viewers have some tiny measure of something to hold writers to account, even if the writers do ignore it.

19 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

Katherine & Jill's families should both be involved with running Chancellor but because Y&R doesn't care about any family that isn't a Newman or Abbott that will never happen.

 

Chancellor Industries has never been written as business for the whole family to be involved in.

 

John Abbott and Victor founded their businesses and they were passionate about them.  They were building them for their families with the intent that they take over someday. Most family members were encouraged to take part or at least give it a try.

 

Kay got hers from killing Phillip. The only thing she was passionate about was controlling it. She had no interest in the business or running it herself. She also had no interest in having Brock take part. He was a lawyer and she never even asked him. Her focus was on inspiring Phillip3 to be passionate about running it.  She never invited Mac in, but after Jill became her daughter she wanted Jill to take over. When Cane was found to be Phillip 3, she wanted Cane running it. When Devon was found to be her grandson Kay offered him something in music, not to be mentored into running Chancellor.

 

Kay has always considered CI for those connected to Phillip II….. until her strange will was read. But even working with that WTF moment, it’s Jill who had the passion to go after it. Victor really didn’t care about it. Devon had the $$$ to snap it up, but he didn’t either. And why should he? He hardly knew his grandmother and Chancellor Industries wasn’t the thing that defined her. If he wanted to honor, or be close to his grandmother buying it wouldn’t have been it. Jill did it, because of her relationship to Phillip and her offspring, not to be close to Kay.

 

Jabot and Newman are John and Victor’s legacy. That’s never been the case with CI and Kay.

57 minutes ago, cattykittens said:

 

Chancellor Industries has never been written as business for the whole family to be involved in.

 

John Abbott and Victor founded their businesses and they were passionate about them.  They were building them for their families with the intent that they take over someday. Most family members were encouraged to take part or at least give it a try

 

Kay got hers from killing Phillip. The only thing she was passionate about was controlling it. She had no interest in the business or running it herself. She also had no interest in having Brock take part. He was a lawyer and she never even asked him. Her focus was on inspiring Phillip3 to be passionate about running it.  She never invited Mac in, but after Jill became her daughter she wanted Jill to take over. When Cane was found to be Phillip 3, she wanted Cane running it. When Devon was found to be her grandson Kay offered him something in music, not to be mentored into running Chancellor.

 

Kay has always considered CI for those connected to Phillip II….. until her strange will was read. But even working with that WTF moment, it’s Jill who had the passion to go after it. Victor really didn’t care about it. Devon had the $$$ to snap it up, but he didn’t either. And why should he? He hardly knew his grandmother and Chancellor Industries wasn’t the thing that defined her. If he wanted to honor, or be close to his grandmother buying it wouldn’t have been it. Jill did it, because of her relationship to Phillip and her offspring, not to be close to Kay.

 

Jabot and Newman are John and Victor’s legacy. That’s never been the case with CI and Kay.

 

Chancellor Industries is as much Katherine as it is Jill's thus it belongs to Katherine family as much as Jill's. End of story.

Putting a strikethrough someone's entire comment? Savage.

32 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

 

Chancellor Industries is as much Katherine as it is Jill's thus it belongs to Katherine family as much as Jill's. End of story.

 

Katherine could have left her entire estate to a dog if she wanted. It doesn't belong to any of them.

Kay left it to Victor (not her family) , and Jill bought it. How can it belong to anyone else now?

 

Does Devon's 2.5 billion belong to the rest of the family too?

Edited March 29, 20178 yr by cattykittens

16 minutes ago, Darn said:

Putting a strikethrough someone's entire comment? Savage.

 

It's a gift.

I can't believe how much I am enjoying Y&R these days. 

 

Any ideas who Tessa's family in town could be? All this talk about her family being nothing like the Newmans. I hope she is not connected to the Fisher/Baldwin clan.

 

Everytime I watch Scott, I can't help thinking that this could have been Phillip IV (as long as his "Chance" period was forgotten for good). Phillip could have been a nice man like Brock, only more interesting.

 

Everytime I watch Hilary I think that this woman must be amazing in bed (the character; not the actress). I got the same vibe from Brenda Dickson's Jill. Hilary is the most fascinating Y&R woman for me.

 

The Underground is a great place for characters to mingle. It is nice to see Genoa City as a community.

 

Nikki has been amazing eversince the new regime took over.

 

I am bored with Jack-Gloria scenes. Jill would be so much more fun in the Jabot enviroment. However I liked the Kevin/Chloe/Esther/Gloria scene. 

 

I don't care for Ashley and Ravi. The sad thing is that every time I watch Ashley, I see Real Housewife Eileen, whom I don't like at all. The Ravi story is not right for her.

 

 

This regime would have been amazing for GL. Mal Young loves outdoor scenes and these people enjoy writing for  a community, while working really hard to move on after a disastrous decade without disrespecting the work of the people before them. 

The show is pleasant enough to watch but it's been a little hard to care about what's going on, TBH. It's not necessarily boring, I don't mind slow, and things seem to be kicking up a bit, but it feels like there's a lack of ... oomph. I can't describe it right but something's missing.

I couldn't make it through yesterday's episode.

 

That first Devon/Mariah scene with the weird camera angel to hide the fact that they filmed in the CBS parking lot was something else. So strange.

 

The show just feels so lifeless. There's no tension to anything at all. It's maddening.

1 hour ago, Darn said:

I couldn't make it through yesterday's episode.

 

That first Devon/Mariah scene with the weird camera angel to hide the fact that they filmed in the CBS parking lot was something else. So strange.

 

The show just feels so lifeless. There's no tension to anything at all. It's maddening.

 

Definitely no tension on the show. Not even in scenes that should have it. Ex: Jordan and Devon in the park. The words were antagonizing. But for some reason it seems the actors played it like they were buds. Not sure if that was directed or not. It was very weird. 

The Nick & Chelsea stuff is dragging. It's a bad sign when all of the tension for a couple is due to outside forces.

2 hours ago, Darn said:

I couldn't make it through yesterday's episode.

 

That first Devon/Mariah scene with the weird camera angel to hide the fact that they filmed in the CBS parking lot was something else. So strange.

 

The show just feels so lifeless. There's no tension to anything at all. It's maddening.

 

Lifeless!

 

That's the word I was looking for.