Members Marco Dane Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 Thank goodness he's gone now the show can afford some more veteran actors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 It's a very strange and weirdly sad coda to Ron Carlivati's tenure, and firing, that this is how Luke went out the day after his own dismissal. Redeeming Luke and reuniting Luke and Laura were Ron's biggest dream from the day he started at the show - you even had Starr and Cole from OLTL retelling their grand love story to each other. I think it was his great white whale, and his instinct there was correct. But he could never get it past Tony Geary. I think Ron might have been able to rally and push FV and the network more, to lean on Geary, the show's biggest star to accept the necessity of the show's biggest supercouple, the way he and Frank once did in a similar situation at OLTL (and which I will always be very grateful to them for) - if only he hadn't let the rest of his GH collapse in a mess of ego bias, stubborn personal favorites and meandering, eternal storylines he has refused to conclude for years because he became convinced he was the light and way of daytime in the new millennium. RC became so obsessed with the OLTL struggle, with Franco and Nina, with Obrecht and his endless legion of villains, with the mutating Fluke story that was changed up to taunt the audience. He spent all the goodwill and capital he had with the audience, with the network, with his EP who, whatever people want to say on social media, has almost certainly been his closest advocate and has shielded him from various network regimes. By the time it was all over, he had absolutely nothing left to write a proper "final Spencer adventure" story, or to even get Luke a half-decent sendoff on his last day. Today they're both gone, in a whimper. It didn't have to be like that, but Ron bought his own ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slick jones Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 Not happy with the sendoff. As someone that literally grew up watching Luke/Laura, I at least expected some flashbacks...The Wedding, Laura on the mansion lawn...Texas...their 93 return, Luke/Tracey,Luke/Skye, Luke/Holly., Luke/Felecia, Luke/Helena(1,3), With such a vault of treasures, why they didn't utilize these, I mean seriously...No Luke/Scott scene? So much I would have done before (for weeks) Geary left...Thank Gawd the Luke/Bobbi flashback...I would have at least thrown in Luke/Robert...Horrendous sendoff for an icon (who I agree was long past his expiration date....but he brought notoriety and buzz for whatever he did on the show). His 35+ years deserved better than this paltry sendoff..Shame on you Ron. You deserve that pink slip just for f ucking this departure up... On another front, I enjoyed Maxie giving it back to Madeline. Mills plays Madeline like Abby(which I love)...and it was good to see Maxie stand up for herself, rather than just Nathan's f uckbuddy.... Valerie isn't working. It's not Sarpy's fault(though she needs a coach)...the character was ill-conceived, and the story with Dante is horrible. Duh-nee-se reveal needs to occur yesterday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 I remember reading Geary wanted Luke to die as the final way to go out. Dunno why they didn't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 Luke's death would have been great and they could have brought back a lot of characters for his funeral…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 Interesting. If true, they should've listened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members depboy Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 Just got done with today's show. See ya, Tony, you egomaniac. I fast forwarded through the Nina/Ric/Woodcock, Kiki/Ava/Franco scenes. BS is an absolutely dreadful actress, followed closely by Emme. I wanted Morgan to bend Dillon over the pool table...that's what those scenes were supposed to make feel, right? Donna Mills ripping KS' Maxie apart was glorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 Pretty dismal final episode for Luke. The entire episode should have been a clipfest with none of these other stories. Morgan and Dillon would be hot. I loved Maxie and Madeline and the back and forth about Madeline's vintage outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mutti9 Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 I never saw Billy Miller on Y&R, but I'm very happy he was brought in as Jason. The former actor was like watching a cigar store wooden Indian, and BM gives the character depth, emotion, and a certain amount of charm. I think he's doing a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members redontop4 Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 I wish JFP could have come back to oversee TG's farewell. She would have produced the HELL out of it. What we got was cheap and pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alexisfan07 Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 I wonder if the homoerotic undertones with Dillon/Morgan was supposed to be a *wink wink* the actor who plays Dillon is gay? Otherwise, what the !@#$%^&*] was the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 probably Ron just getting his jollies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 Is he?? I thought the same thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 I would cut almost all of RC's creations, except Sabrina (who is currently decent in her new romance with Michael but could always go later, and they're not going to fire her right now anyway since Teresa Castillo is pregnant) and Valerie, who has potential with better writing. I would try to salvage Ava. Nathan can either go on recurring or be killed by his mother as part of their exit story. Beyond that, they're the Class of Nuke 'Em High. Forgot to add: I would be willing to spare Brad depending on good story. I have some affection for the character but he is also expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alexisfan07 Posted July 27, 2015 Members Share Posted July 27, 2015 Some days I think he might be but by and large I don't get that vibe lol, no idea though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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