Members ChitHappens Posted January 19, 2015 Members Share Posted January 19, 2015 My only challenge is Crystal felt compelled to share his feelings with the world. Why? He has a right to feel the way he wishes, and I won't condemn him for that. I'd just like for folks to keep things that might be hurtful to others to themselves. But no way in hell will I tell anyone how they should feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 19, 2015 Members Share Posted January 19, 2015 If I did that I wouldn't be on this board (or this Earth) anymore. Unlike myself, I don't think Crystal meant anything by it. He's just an old man a little too set in his ways. Some of this [!@#$%^&*] is a little much for him. My mom thought a very brief nude shot in My Own Private Idaho was "pornography". I love her to death but all I could do was laugh at her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted January 19, 2015 Members Share Posted January 19, 2015 He should compare notes with Kirk Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 19, 2015 Members Share Posted January 19, 2015 It's not so much about Billy Crystal being a raging bigot as it is his "golly gosh I can't take seeing gay sex" views just give more fodder to the people who work day and night to stop the industry from having any portrayal of sexuality beyond sassy best friends or tales of tragedy and misery. Someone who is some type of "liberal" voice saying this, and acting like a victim when he gets criticized for it, just plays right into their "gay agenda" "thought police" "straight people are now the ones who deserve 'special rights'" hands. It also reminds me again of just how frightened the world is of sexuality between gay couples, especially between two men. And stuff like this just makes that even more prevalent and popular, because if you go, essentially, "ew that's icky," you're a hero for free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 19, 2015 Members Share Posted January 19, 2015 I think a lot of that is dying out. I just don't think anyone outside of the already-well-established FOX News sphere is taking 99-year-old Billy Crystal to heart. I don't think TV has ever been this casually gay or queer, both for ill and for good. Empire runs every week, along with Looking, Shameless, stuff on Amazon like Transparent, you name it - there's a flavor of representation for anyone and anything of any interest out there. Even GH and DAYS, for all their flaws, have no problem anymore with showing guys making out on a regular basis (and wow, the new Will's pecs are unbelievable). That's the way of things now. So anyone who isn't already hardened on this stuff with their politics or their church is, I suspect, laughing Billy off as an old-fashioned old man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted January 19, 2015 Members Share Posted January 19, 2015 Because he got asked about it. It's not like he did a press conference to tell the world his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted January 20, 2015 Members Share Posted January 20, 2015 Ok so what's the huge deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted January 20, 2015 Members Share Posted January 20, 2015 I don't think there is one. Unfortunately, "Old Man Has Trouble Adjusting to the Present" makes a lousy headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Graham Posted January 20, 2015 Members Share Posted January 20, 2015 When is this queen going to come out of the closet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alexisfan07 Posted January 20, 2015 Members Share Posted January 20, 2015 I mean, there are people that are just uncomfortable with extreme scenes of intimacy/sex in general, gay or straight. Not saying that's the case here but I can't fault them for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members katie_9918 Posted January 20, 2015 Members Share Posted January 20, 2015 Personally, I feel about what I perceive to be violence constantly being shoved in our faces as Mr. Crystal seems to feel about what he perceives as the gay stuff shoved in our faces. It's called a remote control. I use mine pretty nondiscriminately. And who told him it was a good idea to say such things, anyway? Even if he's not a "bigot," (a word used FAR too liberally these days), it's rarely a good idea to say anything like that these days. ETA: Not that I'm judging Crystal or anything. I don't think he's a bigot. I think he's one of those folks of a certain age who don't mean any harm for whom the world is changing just a bit too quickly for him to realize he might be figuratively killed for what he's saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted January 20, 2015 Members Share Posted January 20, 2015 This touches on something that drives me crazy. Every week we have a million shows featuring rapists, psychopaths, serial killers, etc.... CSI, L&O, NCIS, Stalker, Criminal Minds, etc.... but for some reason people seem way more bothered by depictions of consensual sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members katie_9918 Posted January 20, 2015 Members Share Posted January 20, 2015 Totally agree. And I did edit to add a few words that disappeared between my head and the add reply button. They were important words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted January 20, 2015 Author Members Share Posted January 20, 2015 That has always annoyed me. In many ways, violence is acceptable, embraced and even glorified while even the most casual depiction of sex or the human body (a natural, beautiful thing IMO) is enough to make people go nuts. Just doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted January 20, 2015 Members Share Posted January 20, 2015 This 'Billy is old therefore he gets a free pass' is nonsense.The man is 66 which to a 22 yr old might seem ancient but he grew up in a time of enormous change and was part of it through his involvement with Soap.If he was spouting racist or sexist comments would it be OK to say he's old so its not a problem? Had he objected to sex scenes in general that would be a different issue but to make out that gay sex scenes are going too far and he feels uncomfortable really does him no favours. And violence and sexism on the screen is a different issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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