Guza drove me away from the show. But he and his team had several plotted stories. Some of them were awful, some were events tucked between 2 or 3 months of dialogue heavy scenes, but they did tell stories. Off the top of my head...

Tony Jones spent two years going crazy.

Sonny/Brenda/Jax

The Liz rape through jackson's leaving the show the first time around was one entire story.

Robin and Patrick's relationship.

Sonny and Carly ending up together, and michael.

The entire fight for Michael.

Dillon and Georgie's relationship and Tracy being against it.

The dreadful Emily rapeby they Nikolas lookalike.

The Balkan.

That's just off the top of my head. Guza had lots of meandering and wasted time, and I just hated what GH became under his work, but the guy did write stories.

Edited December 5, 201411 yr by titan1978

Guza drove me away from the show. But he and his team had several plotted stories. Some of them were awful, some were events tucked between 2 or 3 months of dialogue heavy scenes, but they did tell stories. Off the top of my head...

Tony Jones spent two years going crazy.

Sonny/Brenda/Jax

The Liz rape through jackson's leaving the show the first time around was one entire story.

Robin and Patrick's relationship.

Sonny and Carly ending up together, and michael.

The entire fight for Michael.

Dillon and Georgie's relationship and Tracy being against it.

The dreadful Emily rapeby they Nikolas lookalike.

The Balkan.

That's just off the top of my head. Guza had lots of meandering and wasted time, and I just hated what GH became under his work, but the guy did write stories.

Wasn't that story during Michele Val Jean/Liz Korte's stint as HW. Or did MVJ just pen the story? I do remember Becky Herbst thanking MVJ for penning the story.

Wasn't that story during Michele Val Jean/Liz Korte's stint as HW. Or did MVJ just pen the story? I do remember Becky Herbst thanking MVJ for penning the story.

MVJ penned the story but Guza was HW

Wasn't that story during Michele Val Jean/Liz Korte's stint as HW. Or did MVJ just pen the story? I do remember Becky Herbst thanking MVJ for penning the story.

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MVJ penned the story but Guza was HW

Oh OK. Makes sense. Guza has never been one to pen a good story with a delicate subject.

Oh OK. Makes sense. Guza has never been one to pen a good story with a delicate subject.

IIRC, she also penned the scene where Michael confessed to Jason that he was raped in prison

IIRC, she also penned the scene where Michael confessed to Jason that he was raped in prison

Didn't she also pen Lucky finding out Luke raping Laura? And what is she? The rape story penning guru? I know that she experienced rape herself as she said it in an interview, but do all the head writers come to her when they want a rape story penned? She has so many other talents as well. I'll always LOVE MVJ for creating Gia along with Gia/Nik romance AND Gia/Liz rivalry. I enjoyed GH at that time.

If that's what you need to believe.

Someone mentioned scrubs getting together as a story. Thinking back, I recall Jenny and Greg and what they went through, Nina and Cliff, Robert and Holly, the drama around Tina and Cord, even Belle and Shawn. Patrick and Robin fought over a couch. This was their so-called story. They went on PA systems and bickered.

These are the lauded stories of Guza apparently, while RC's stories of villains kidnapping Luke or Faison and Jerry holding Robin are not stories, merely plot points? How can anyone take such a position seriously? Now bickering is a story with a beginning, middle and end?

Didn't she also pen Lucky finding out Luke raping Laura? And what is she? The rape story penning guru? I know that she experienced rape herself as she said it in an interview, but do all the head writers come to her when they want a rape story penned? She has so many other talents as well. I'll always LOVE MVJ for creating Gia along with Gia/Nik romance AND Gia/Liz rivalry. I enjoyed GH at that time.

If she pens one for B&B, then we'll know. I know she prefers to be a script writers but I wish she were HW GH with another awesome writer

Forget the mask, let the Sonny/Johnny bromance begin!

What's wrong with plot? I will take all plot all the time vs years of Sonny or Alexis or Liz just sitting around in no energy, dull two person scenes discussing the current state of their coupledom. No talent Rick Hearst, No talent Ted King, constant discussing of Sonny by everyone in town, Carly and Courtney, years of Sam whispering and crying....give be rubber masks any day of that crap.

Um, what's wrong with PLOT? You lose character depth. You lose relatability. You lose credibility. I'm glad you enjoy the masks and the cartoon villains. This show under Ron's pen could really be as good as you think it is. But it isn't.

And stop thinking if fans don't like RC that they want Guza back. That.Is.NOT.The.Case. Again, that is NOT the case.

Edited December 5, 201411 yr by KMan101

Also, both classic Monty era and Labine had plenty of chatacter within their plots. Let's not forget even the Ice Princess led to Robert Scorpio and Luke and Laura getting married.

RC is all plot all the time. A lot of the character moments are talked about as in happened off screen and he drives the plot so much character is lost. I watched one entire episode last week and other than the Carly and Michael scenes the rest were snarky between all the characters. With better script writers he would have a more ideal show. Scripts illuminating character while also moving the plot forward. Plus maybe some of the beats that are dropped would show up on screen.

But I cannot deny that when i do tune in I am more engaged than I was during the last four years of JFP's era, and the ratings don't lie. The show is up in viewers.

Time to call Guza, ABC!

And stop thinking if fans don't like RC that they want Guza back. That.Is.NOT.The.Case. Again, that is NOT the case.

You can't kid a kidder.

You can't kid a kidder.

Wow. OK. I'm telling you I do NOT want Guza back. Are you trying to be thick?