I read it as they are high as [!@#$%^&*] and don't want to pay any union, anywhere and are hoping for a tornado to sweep them up and take them to Oz, where the munchkins never unionized.

Potato/Po-tah-to

If the camera guy is happy with $x dollars an hour, budget shouldn't matter

Oh, it's not worth crying about. It's a business issue. It will either get resolved or it won't. With PP you roll those dice, unfortunately. All I can do right now is watch the damn shows and hope for the best. I hope for a day when this kind of nonsense isn't always over the horizon.

Greed. In cases like this I almost wish I didn't have the net to follow pointless updates, etc.

My only hope is that PP really have more to lose at this point by not making an agreement and just ending it all.

(A move makes zero sense--where would be cheaper than CT?? I guess some of Canada but that goes into other logistics and issues.)

No surprise, labor disputes can be very disruptive.

It's ridiculous, and what concerns me is it was the same sort of thing they were dealing with (the unions and their inability to work with them) and the kind of ideas they were floating before their utter collapse in 2011 - 'we'll go to Canada!' No, you won't, shut up. I hope this doesn't turn into that again, but it easily could. Or they could just pay whatever they may owe and move on. Please.

At some point they have to stop being shocked, shocked that people expect them to function like a sane business. I think the PP soaps themselves have been doing great, professional work but I think the upper management of the company is often nuts. I was on their side with the ABC/GH mess because I think GH was very vindictive and self-serving, but with stuff like this, just grow up.

My only hope is that PP really have more to lose at this point by not making an agreement and just ending it all.

Edited June 6, 201312 yr by Dale

Can they continue editing?

I doubt each show (maybe AMC, but not OLTL) has enough fully edited episodes to stop everything right now.

If the camera guy is happy with $x dollars an hour, budget shouldn't matter

Yes, let's blame the unions.

It could very well be a case of both sides being in the wrong or unreasonable, somewhat. My gut tells me PP did not plan well for their contractual obligations vs. their start-up needs, though. And that can be easily resolved, but they have to want to do it as opposed to blustering about moving the production to Thailand or worse, ending production altogether.

What worries me is that once this news starts leaking out to the droves on Facebook and Twitter, there will be people who make the mistake of thinking the shows are done and stop watching now.

Yes, let's blame the unions.

Totally. This is obviously the fault of those greedy crew members wanting to be paid according to the agreement they had with PP.

Seriously PP, get your sh*t together and save the drama for the people IN Pine Valley and Llanview.

Yes, let's blame the unions.

Totally. This is obviously the fault of those greedy crew members wanting to be paid according to the agreement they had with PP.

Seriously PP, get your sh*t together and save the drama for the people IN Pine Valley and Llanview.

It could very well be a case of both sides being in the wrong or unreasonable, somewhat. My gut tells me PP did not plan well for their contractual obligations vs. their start-up needs, though. And that can be easily resolved, but they have to want to do it as opposed to blustering about moving the production to Thailand or worse, ending production altogether.

I hear Peapack is cheap.

Then again, crew still have to be paid union agreements. That seems to be an issue, and has been an issue from the start as you noted.

I think any of the people who are that informed are already as plugged in as they're going to get. They weathered the 2-show reduction, they'll eventually get wind of this.

I hear Peapack is cheap.

I don't think it's an issue so much of the shooting and the budget as them coordinating properly with the unions, and that's going to follow them wherever they go so they might as well fix it here.

My only hope is that PP really have more to lose at this point by not making an agreement and just ending it all.

Idon't think my wording was clear. I just mean for their reputation and finances, with these shows being relative successes, my hope is that that is enough to make the go out of their way to resolve these issues.