Before Rosie gets here, I'm just going to lay out my Jesse/Angie/David stuff.

LOVE THIS. That is all.

I totally cannot believe that caught on, lol.

To me, Jesse lies to Angie so often, because he wants to shield her from the harshness of life. I can't condone any of the lies he's told her; however, I could understand why he's told them. The problem for me, though, is that Angie wasn't someone who came from a traumatic background, nor has she existed in some fairy tale-like bubble where she has known only joy and merriment. From the beginning, Angie has been a very no-nonsense, down-to-earth person who is all too aware that life is never easy or simple. IOW, as much as Jesse loves Angie, I don't believe he knows her.

Which makes perfect sense considering he was dead for 20 years.

This is one time where I'm glad AMC is not on ABC anymore. Otherwise, you just KNOW the trip to NYC would have included a performance of "Mary Poppins" or "The Lion King" on Broadway.

Oh you know it.That said, Celia strikes me as someone who would adore "Wicked."

Edited May 20, 201312 yr by marceline

I totally cannot believe that caught on, lol.

To me, Jesse lies to Angie so often, because he wants to shield her from the harshness of life. I can't condone any of the lies he's told her; however, I could understand why he's told them. The problem for me, though, is that Angie wasn't someone who came from a traumatic background, nor has she existed in some fairy tale-like bubble where she has known only joy and merriment. From the beginning, Angie has been a very no-nonsense, down-to-earth person who is all too aware that life is never easy or simple. IOW, as much as Jesse loves Angie, I don't believe he knows her.

Angie and Jesse have diverse childhood's/backgrounds. I think that Angie is failing to know what Jesse went through with the 20 year on the run thing, which was shown with the Frankie kidnapping/Angie on the top of the roof/helicopter scene that was what Jesse was trying to prevent.

I think it is the opposite. Angie is failure to not know Jesse during the 20 year justifiable on the run storyline. Jesse's torture, trauma, sacrificing his life with Angie and Frankie to make sure of a safe life, to ensure a protected life. What an amazing person to lay down their life for the ones they love the most for their safety and security. Angie seems to be forgetting all of that right now.

Angie needs that wake up call again to force her to wake up and see Jesse and to get a better understanding on his uncondiitonal love he has always had and still has for her. True love is forgiving and unconditional, period.

I think Amc needs to recast Celia. I found her just miscast in this part. I would recast the role

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what a fucked up day for me. Ok AMC recap

David gonna do Angie on that sofa

Jesse gonna scream that he's evil

FBI agent is showing her cleavage

Celia's never seen 'Cats'

Petey wants to see her cat

Speaking of cats AJ sure wants to see a cat

MiMo is sending mixed signals

JR is faking, soon will be making w/ Cara

Binx just cursed

When Celia and Petey bomb, I need her to bond w/ AJ. Make it happen writers.

Edited May 20, 201312 yr by Clear Drama

I think Amc needs to recast Celia. I found her just miscast in this part. I would recast the role

Agreed!

Even though her character on 90210 made me want to shave violently w/a chainsaw, I think Adrianna Tate-Duncan would be perfect for this role! Especially if Celia becomes unhinged!

Edited May 20, 201312 yr by AllMyDaysatGH

Angie and Jesse have diverse childhood's/backgrounds. I think that Angie is failing to know what Jesse went through with the 20 year on the run thing, which was shown with the Frankie kidnapping/Angie on the top of the roof/helicopter scene that was what Jesse was trying to prevent.

I think it is the opposite. Angie is failure to not know Jesse during the 20 year justifiable on the run storyline. Jesse's torture, trauma, sacrificing his life with Angie and Frankie to make sure of a safe life, to ensure a protected life. What an amazing person to lay down their life for the ones they love the most for their safety and security. Angie seems to be forgetting all of that right now.

Angie needs that wake up call again to force her to wake up and see Jesse and to get a better understanding on his uncondiitonal love he has always had and still has for her. True love is forgiving and unconditional, period.

So you're blaming Angie only? Why does Jesse get a pass?

I think he fails to understand that she thought he was dead for over twenty years and had to move on. She had relationships, and had two marriages during that twenty year period. Plus, she had aplastic anemia, ran a free clinic, had a foster child that was taken away from her and Jacob, her son Frankie was involved in some radical group (during the City era), adopted a child, etc.

While she should try to understand what Jesse went through during those twenty years, I think he fails to understand what she went through during that same period when she believed him to be dead. Since he's come back, he's basically lied to her about major life changes thinking that she couldn't possible handle it, when I'm thinking that he's projecting his own fears and insecurities onto her.

I think that he needs to change as well because forgiveness and unconditional love can only take you so far. If he keeps doing these things to 'protect' her, then I'm led to believe that he doesn't think much of her.. and if that's the case, then she needs to dump him.

And I still don't understand Billy Clyde or why Jesse knows him. I was given a quick 411 about him this weekend, so I'm not up to date on him.

He is funny tho.

Agreed!

Even though her character on 90210 made me want to shave violently w/a chainsaw, I think Adrianna Tate-Duncan would be perfect for this role! Especially if Celia becomes unhinged!

let us not.

I understand Bianca's upset but it's hard to take this woman seriously given all she did was make excuses for Babe once she forgave her. Hey Binks at least JR is owning what he did

I understand Bianca's upset but it's hard to take this woman seriously given all she did was make excuses for Babe once she forgave her. Hey Binks at least JR is owning what he did

A Freaking Men

JR is [!@#$%^&*] full of [!@#$%^&*] tho. I don't believe he forgot.

I understand Bianca's upset but it's hard to take this woman seriously given all she did was make excuses for Babe once she forgave her. Hey Binks at least JR is owning what he did

Let us not revisit the dark days of Babe!Is!Love.

JR is [!@#$%^&*] full of [!@#$%^&*] tho. I don't believe he forgot.

The hospital tests showed he has retrograde amnesia