There was quite a few things wrong with this hack, but my biggest problem was Spencer Truman, the year OLTL died. She spent an entire year telling this man's story, and much like Connie/Kate, it changed each week with none of it making any sense. Paul Satterfield was heinous - on every day and the character's name was coming out of everyone's mouth. It was the worst I'd ever seen OL (until Ron came along). I thought Spencer's story would never wrap up. Dena and Frank really took OLTL to the dogs that year. I'm trying to figure out who Paul was messing around with, Dena or Frank? They thew away the gay politician story (Nora's husband was a closeted gay man having an affair with his son's best friend - who throws this story away?) to spend a year, A YEAR, on Spencer Truman. I'm still traumatized. I never want to see her name attached to a soap again! NEVER!

Even worse than Spencer was her John & Natalie, IMO. Thank God someone put a stop to that. RC went on record in Dec. '07 that he felt they didn't work together, so it's sad someone made him revisit them a few years later. But Spencer Truman is a great example of her commitment to her storytelling, regardless of how it was turning out. It's almost like she balls to the wall would never back down on OLTL because she felt so screwed by "Days." Her second "Days" stint was def. her best, but this woman lacks execution and day-to-day quality/meaningfulness. This is honestly how I felt about Guza post-summer '07, but a lot of people 'round here seem to think his team consistently submitted well thought out scripts. I thought there was no flow and everything was limited and circular.

Basically, Ronnie C. is like JER on speed. However, JER still knew how to tell a story, with a beginning, middle, and strong climax, no matter how cardboard his characters tended to be.

I'll give JER credit where it's due. Most of the time he ha a plan when he started his stories even though they dragged out forever he still had an ending in mind albiet a shitty one at times. And he actually new how to write romance(aside from Ethan/Theresa)

Did anything on Passions even have an ending?

Edited December 10, 201213 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

What? JER wasn't allowed to have an "off" decade?

Edited December 10, 201213 yr by Khan

Did anything on Passions even have an ending?

The last month they wrapped up alot of stuff.

When I watch GH, it feels like Ron took all the leftovers from JERS soap bible

Edited December 10, 201213 yr by chicklitsandfantasies

Did anything on Passions even have an ending?

I'm with you on this one. My fellow posters have me confused. The only way to get an ending to anything was to cancel the show, and then it wouldn't stay dead. Reilly did romance well? Really?

What? JER wasn't allowed to have an "off" decade?

lol. I swear only one story was told in the ten years that mess was on the air.

I'm with you on this one. My fellow posters have me confused. The only way to get an ending to anything was to cancel the show, and then it wouldn't stay dead. Reilly did romance well? Really?

He wrote certain romances well but all couples at the end of the show beyond Theresa/Ethan, Julian/Eve, and Fancy/Luis were filler.

Tell me why you feel this way, please? I thought the scenes were really good. LW and CD work really well as mother and son - very good chem (and aren't you happy we didn't have to see Pluto dry-humping Michael). However, the writing for Michael is really bugging me. I want to be upset with him, but I can't because it's not the character's fault the writing is failing him. Michael's words to Carly didn't bug me so much as he's always let her have it worse than Sonny (sexist jackass) and Carly can be very overbearing. My problem with Michael is his treatment of Sonny. This does not jive with what we've seen over the years. Michael will protect Sonny above all else. Being curious about AJ is one thing, but tossing his parents aside [so quickly] makes no sense.

I do believe while watching "The Battle For Michael", we will have to operate off of the potential of the story. This will get us thru the suckage/writing.

I didn't mean that the scenes were bad, I should've been clearer. They were just SO all over the place, IMO. Which works, because they're very all over the place people. (Again, JMO.)

I think LW and CD work very well together--it seems to be an u.o. 'round here, but I think both actors are perfectly cast, and this is from a SB/esp. TB fan and I thought Drew Garret worked well, too. But to me, LW is everything Carly needs to be and CD has the miniJason thing down pat. They interact similarly to Carly/Jason, but I think there's a lot more heart and complexity with these two--there's kinda like a palpable desperation present in both . . . both desperate to be understood, while knowing they won't be.

I can understand where you're coming from about the writing for Michael. AJ is (or was) my favorite daytime character, so I've been waiting for this story for over a decade, but this is happening a year or two too late. Summer '10 was when I think this story needed to be told and it would've worked well summer '11, too. But Michael has repeatedly displayed his unwavering, blind loyalty for Sonny, even if it's totally at Carly's expense. Under GW and even Guza a bit (but not really), it felt like Carly's curse--that she worked overtime to eliminate AJ and have Sonny be Michael's dad all for it to backfire . . . she watched, in horror, as Michael descended into mob life (after shooting Kate, getting shot, driving an axe into Claudia's skull, going to prison, and getting raped) and loose respect for her. It was Carly at her best (Spring '08 and summer/fall '11), IMO. So the fact that he's JUMPING into this with AJ and doubting her and, esp., Sonny is abrpt, if not downright OOC. But I can also understand how those who were SO OVER mob-centrism and the S/C/J worship are rejoicing that other, dare I say, more logical points-of-view are being represented.

Shirtless Patrick and Michael? Two of the scrawniest dudes on Daytime. Give me Shawn and Jason. I'm gonna be so happy when Chad Duell starts hitting the gym. I swear that dude just looks liike a carton of milk to me.

I've always had a thing for JT and I have to admit that I think CD is the cutest little thing. But, ya, he could benefit from hitting the gym. I read somewhere he was doing these intenso workouts with Scott Reeves, but those obvs. stopped, lol.

The last month they wrapped up alot of stuff.

When I watch GH, it feels like Ron took all the leftovers from JERS soap bible

When I watch GH, it feels like Ron took all the leftovers from JERS soap bible

ITDA. They're both meta, sure . . . but that's where it ends. I know a lot of people on this board disagree, but I think RC's very clever and he actually writes "" stuff, for better or worse (I know I walked right into it with that). I have never seen a worse writer than Reilly, OMG. His first two years on "Days" were clearly tempered by someone, but even then, it was the simplest form of storytelling and without any of the irony or sharp wit that RC can bring. By '96, I think "Days" couldn't have been a more pitiful example of the laziest form of 'writing' ever. I know a lot of people have lots o' nostalgia for that period, and I think it was somewhat redeeming insofar as we can look back and laugh, but it was mindless and crippled the show for over ten years because it cemented J&M, B&H, and J&J as the leads and limited story potential because "Days" was stuck as a "couples show." I won't even touch "Passions" or his second stint at "Days."

RC has a lot of Reilly's bad tendencies but I could never put them in the same category, let alone suggest RC's a bad Reilly copycat.

I wish I could just fast forward to Friday's GH. LOL!

I cannot wait. I have been waiting for this return for 8 years. 8 years!!!

ITDA. They're both meta, sure . . . but that's where it ends. I know a lot of people on this board disagree, but I think RC's very clever and he actually writes "" stuff, for better or worse (I know I walked right into it with that). I have never seen a worse writer than Reilly, OMG. His first two years on "Days" were clearly tempered by someone, but even then, it was the simplest form of storytelling and without any of the irony or sharp wit that RC can bring. By '96, I think "Days" couldn't have been a more pitiful example of the laziest form of 'writing' ever. I know a lot of people have lots o' nostalgia for that period, and I think it was somewhat redeeming insofar as we can look back and laugh, but it was mindless and crippled the show for over ten years because it cemented J&M, B&H, and J&J as the leads and limited story potential because "Days" was stuck as a "couples show." I won't even touch "Passions" or his second stint at "Days."

RC has a lot of Reilly's bad tendencies but I could never put them in the same category, let alone suggest RC's a bad Reilly copycat.

I think background checks should have been completed on both before any guild memberships were issued. Reilly and Ron are cut from very similar cloth. Reilly could have written Connie's "story" with ease. With that man, the chit just flowed - like diarrhea. With Ron, he has to put quite a bit of effort into the crap, and this makes him worse because of all the time and thought he puts in, rotgut is almost always the result - he believes he's delivering a good product and stomps his feet when criticized. Reilly? Not sure what was going on in his head, but I'm pretty sure it was a scary ass place to be!

At least Reilly didn't give a flying f.uck what people thought about him or his material.

I can't say Carlivati has the same confidence about himself or his work.

At least Reilly didn't give a flying f.uck what people thought about him or his material.

I can't say Carlivati has the same confidence about himself or his work.

Yep!

I think background checks should have been completed on both before any guild memberships were issued. Reilly and Ron are cut from very similar cloth. Reilly could have written Connie's "story" with ease. With that man, the chit just flowed - like diarrhea. With Ron, he has to put quite a bit of effort into the crap, and this makes him worse because of all the time and thought he puts in, rotgut is almost always the result - he believes he's delivering a good product and stomps his feet when criticized. Reilly? Not sure what was going on in his head, but I'm pretty sure it was a scary ass place to be!

I'm not defending the Connie story, but if JER were writing it, no one would even know about her yet and half of Kelly Sullivan's airtime would be spent in a mirror. Well, maybe Maxie would know, who'd be blackmailed into silence.

I already stated I think RC's a bad fit for GH, the Connie story serving as a prime example, but there have been twists and turns and in-jokes. None of them have been good, but they're there. Reilly was, so much more than any daytime writer I've ever encountered, utterly stupefying.

At least Reilly didn't give a flying f.uck what people thought about him or his material.

I can't say Carlivati has the same confidence about himself or his work.

Exactly! He moans and groans on twitter. Quote,"Even on break i get hated on! Why me? What's wrong with me?! I'm done!"