It's not that they get no airtime either. It's just very little airtime. I remember the cast of GH being alot more diverse during the Labine/Riche and Guza/Riche years than it is now.

The Ward family is dead or gone.

Yeah. There's barely any diversity at all over there. There used to be Latino characters/AA characters/Asian characters, etc. Now it's Port Crackerville.

I'm still not sold on this concrete proof of racism.

If they get two days a month on air isn't that enough?

There's a reason I've started to call the setting of General Hospital "Port Crackerville"

Same. And yes, Veronica and Tonya (and practically every other African-American who has ever worked on Y&R) were handed a proverbial raw deal; and yes, their ethnicity had more than a little to do with that.

Y&R is a racist soap opera -- written, produced and directed by racist individuals -- and has been for quite some time. And yet...? Until recently, Black folks ate this [!@#$%^&*] up, for the simple fact that Victoria was a sistah and Shemar was a fine piece of ass. (Well, that, and because, like gay men, they (okay, we) have a yen for watching campy melodramas about rich white people with no home training.)

Y&R made its legacy off the devoted following of individuals who were too damned ignorant to see through the b.s. and realize what TPTB really thought of them; and if they aren't happy with the way the AA experience is being handled now on their show, they have only themselves to blame.

Wow, that's pretty tough criticism. I thought this was pretty great, how often did the likes of it happen?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RckGDGmCcD8&feature=related

Edited August 27, 201213 yr by SFK

You would always run something like that across your screen partner.

Which is why she changed her statement later.

Edited August 27, 201213 yr by DeeeDee

Personally. I don't think 2 days a month is enough. I think they should actually give them stories just like they give everyone else stories. Same goes for some of the white characters who are rarely seen either. There's too many people on the backburner period.

Oh, and SFK. You just made me piss my pants with that Will Smith GIF. Thanks.

What I love about the above scene is that it shows the power of the black actor in black storylines. If you just look at the words on the page, it doesn't tip "black" or any other specific ethnicity. But in VR's mouth, it packs a very specific experience for every black woman who has ever been in the same position, and will hit home for the black viewer in a way that hearing yet another white character deliver such a monologue won't. I think everyone, of all ethnicities, religions, sexualities, what have you, deserves a chance at seeing "themselves" on screen.

What I love about the above scene is that it shows the power of the black actor in black storylines. If you just look at the words on the page, it doesn't tip "black" or any other specific ethnicity. But in VR's mouth, it packs a very specific experience for every black woman who has ever been in the same position, and will hit home for the black viewer in a way that hearing yet another white character deliver such a monologue won't. I think everyone, of all ethnicities, religions, sexualities, what have you, deserves a chance at seeing "themselves" on screen.

True. Very very true.

I think everyone, of all ethnicities, religions, sexualities, what have you, deserves a chance at seeing "themselves" on screen.

Which is the main reason Daytime is dying.

Wow, that's pretty tough criticism.

Well, the words I chose to express those opinions...? Probably not the best. Nevertheless, the sentiments behind them stand. For all the talk of past, glorious treatment of AA characters and storylines at the hands of Y&R's TPTB, I believe that these same individuals have never, in fact, paid little more than proverbial "lip service" to them and to their AA-skewing viewing contingent. I mean, even ALL MY CHILDREN, IMO, depicted Blacks better on the whole, and those bastards actually had a Black pimp named Tyrone!

Edited August 27, 201213 yr by Khan

To me it's one of the main reasons. The other one is "let's use the same writers and EPs over and over again. Even if they suck!"

Daytime needs new blood.

To Khan:

They also made Randi a prostitute in the beginning. And, her pimp was an annoying greasy white dude named Fletcher. Good God. I couldn't stand that guy.

Edited August 27, 201213 yr by weareclouds

Daytime needs new blood.

With only 4 soaps left it's too late.

Well, the words I chose to express those opinions...? Probably not the best. Nevertheless, the sentiments behind them stand. For all the talk of past, glorious treatment of AA characters and storylines at the hands of Y&R's TPTB, I believe that these same individuals have never, in fact, paid little more than proverbial "lip service" to them and to their AA-skewing viewing contingent. I mean, even ALL MY CHILDREN, IMO, depicted Blacks better on the whole, and those bastards actually had a Black pimp named Tyrone!

LMAO! You crack me up. Don't forget Y&R had a "Kong". As you know, naming a black male character after a fictional giant ape is always an exercise in good taste.

And just to be clear, I wasn't shooting down your opinion, just soaking in the profundity of it.

With only 4 soaps left it's too late.

Basically! And what's sad is that once upon a time, they had all the the time, all the money, all the opportunity, all the audience to make this [!@#$%^&*] happen.

They also made Randi a prostitute in the beginning.

Hey, I didn't say AMC's track record with African-American characters was perfect, just better than Y&R's. If Randi had been on Y&R, she probably would have been illiterate and a ho.

I'm just saying, there's a reason why Agnes Nixon never would have conceived a story about a Black man going undercover as a White man in order to take down the mob. (And OLTL fans in the audience better not throw "Carla Grey" up at me, because y'all know that was different, lol.) In fact, I'd take Michelle Stafford spitting on every Black actor and crew member on the show over the likes of Tyrone, Jazz and Kong -- excuse me, Nathan -- any damn day.

Basically! And what's sad is that once upon a time, they had all the the time, all the money, all the opportunity, all the audience to make this [!@#$%^&*] happen.

Yep.

It just pisses me off that the UK and Australia soaps are still thriving. And, in America...Well, the ship has basically sailed after 60+ years.

Hey, I didn't say AMC's track record with African-American characters was perfect, just better than Y&R's. If Randi had been on Y&R, she probably would have been illiterate and a ho.

I know. They weren't perfect. But, they were alot better than OLTL, Y&R, and GH.

Hey, I didn't say AMC's track record with African-American characters was perfect, just better than Y&R's. If Randi had been on Y&R, she probably would have been illiterate and a ho.

I'm just saying, there's a reason why Agnes Nixon never would have conceived a story about a Black man going undercover as a White man in order to take down the mob. (And OLTL fans in the audience better not throw "Carla Grey" up at me, because y'all know that was different, lol.) In fact, I'd take Michelle Stafford spitting on every Black actor and crew member on the show over the likes of Tyrone, Jazz and Kong -- excuse me, Nathan -- any damn day.

LMAO I love how entertainingly, but EFFECTIVELY, you prove a point.