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Why Did Beth Ehlers' Stint on AMC Fizzle?

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Darn, I expect nothing less from you. I've seen your posts for years and you are clearly a despicable low-life. Stay classy till the end, dirtbag.

This is going in the sig. I can't!

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Best Thread Ever. I didn't even think she was dissed much on here--the main talk I remember is how she was wasted and about her non-exit...

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What's the count for 2002? That's the year the show's numbers sank from the 3.0's into the 2.0's....

Maybe we should blame Joan Collins.

In 2002, the top 10 was:

Harley 148

Gus 145

Phillip 142

Cassie 139

Marah 138

Danny 132

Michelle 127

Tony 120

Olivia 119

Reva & Beth 117.

Alexandra had 34 appearances, all but 1 by Joan Collins.

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Re Ruth Karloff,wasn't there a huge fuss that Grant refused to play the scenes or some such and ended up with an eye infection to justify that Phillip wouldn't recognise Harley.?

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In 2002, the top 10 was:

Harley 148

Gus 145

Phillip 142

Cassie 139

Marah 138

Danny 132

Michelle 127

Tony 120

Olivia 119

Reva & Beth 117.

Alexandra had 34 appearances, all but 1 by Joan Collins.

Tsk, tsk. Just as I feared. It was the oversaturation of HARLEY, not Reva, not Alexandra, not Beth, that caused the dramatic ratings decline in 2002. Thanks for the FACTS! ;) And not Kim-Zimmer-was-on-Love-of-Life facts, but REAL facts.

This is fun, indeed.

Re Ruth Karloff,wasn't there a huge fuss that Grant refused to play the scenes or some such and ended up with an eye infection to justify that Phillip wouldn't recognise Harley.?

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The first scene where Phillip met "Ruth", he was putting eyedrops in his eyes. That was the only explanation they gave for Phillip's blurred judgment, so to speak.

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LOL...on that pic. Kreizman's great idea for a storyline, have Harley go undercover at Spaulding working directly for Phillip who was no dummy! Except it had been done before, with that exact same makeup with Brent/Marion!!!

Wait, when and how did Harley try to impersonate Alex????

Yeah, I don't remember that but I do remember when Alex put on a blonde wig and pretended to be Beth in order to make Alan think that Beth wanted him back when Alex was drugging his tea and trying to gaslight him. During the same episode, he also hallucinated that she was the Queen of Hearts and she and the butler were zombies. Good times. Goooooooood times.

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Rauch hated Ehlers didnt he? How did she get so much airtime?

I don't know if he hated her but he did want to replace her with Hayley Sparks permanently at one point and he made no secret of the fact that he prefered Beth Chamberlin and Crystal Chappel as leading ladies. He saw Harley strictly as a supporting character. Considering how unpleasant the character became after she was put in perpetually-imperiled-heroine mode, I tend to agree with him.

Still say her best role was as sharp, shrewd, shrewish and unpleasant Irna Phillips!!!

I agree and that's why I think she might have been a good Liza recast on AMC. A bitter, resentful Liza.

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The first scene where Phillip met "Ruth", he was putting eyedrops in his eyes. That was the only explanation they gave for Phillip's blurred judgment, so to speak.

And the eyedrops were only done on Grant's insistence. He knew that scene was stupid and that Phillip would know it was Harley in a second. Wheeler refused to change it but allowed him to improvise the eyedrops bit as a reason why he didn't recognize her. Months later, Harley had a flashback after Phillip's "murder" of Philip's confrontation with Ruth at Company where he rips off the disguise and asks Harley if she thinks he's stupid or something to that effect, implying that he's known for a while.

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Just when I thought I was safe from those pesky HFF's...

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R Sinclair. You are the definition of a Troll. You post in threads you have no interest in just to start trouble. Mind your own business. Don't tell people not to post in a topic you don't like. The reason you and others have thousands of posts is because you feel the need to post in every single thread and reply to every post. Guess what? Just because a thread is at the top doesn't mean you have to read it. Stick with what you like and stop bothering everyone else.

Hey! I got a shout out!

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