When Cady said that she knew about the union negotiations "intimately" I took that to mean that she was one of the actors that was trying to help PP work with the union. Granted that's just a conclusion on my part but she's clearly the activist type, I could see her being active in the union on some level. Like I said we all get to decide for ourselves who is lying, telling the truth or covering their ass. Cady didn't say anything in that post that gave me any reason to question her intentions or information. I can't say the same for the information coming from or about PP. Of course MMV.

I took that to mean that she may have helped PP with their Original Proposal for The unions on their plan to produce the shows. Remember Waly Willey said the casts were given Proposals to look at and give feedback on. This was mid-August so maybe thats what Cady was speaking of. I know from an AFTRA article back in October On this site that AFTRA said it was keeping the casts informed of negoiations though

Also People are pissed about PP not finalizing Deals with AFTRA & WGA But When PP lost their Money what would be the point of them continuing contract union talks if they cant produce any shows?

Also People are pissed about PP not finalizing Deals with AFTRA & WGA But When PP lost their Money what would be the point of them continuing contract union talks if they cant produce any shows?

And what would be the point of trying to produce a show when you can't get your actors cleared to work? They needed all these ducks in order.

True SFK but it all begins and ends with having the money. PP could have had all the unions and actors set but without finances the shows would still have died

Also People are pissed about PP not finalizing Deals with AFTRA & WGA But When PP lost their Money what would be the point of them continuing contract union talks if they cant produce any shows?

Hon, you've done something nobody on this board has ever done. You have wore. me. the hell. out. I just don't get how you just keep on believing in this company. They didn't even have the decency to tell the actors who signed that they were giving up on the shows. Maybe there wasn't any point in continuing contract talks, (I disagree with that by the way) but the way they broke them off was disgusting.

PP is like Herman Cain and more women just keep coming out saying, "This dude is a sex fiend." Sorry I've heard enough. I heard enough when Susan Lucci served them a plate of STFU.

Just saying Id have all the funding in place before worrying about Unions & Contracts

It would be cool to the lisencing agreement between ABC & PP. I think that would answer a lot of questions that have been left hanging

It would be cool to the lisencing agreement between ABC & PP. I think that would answer a lot of questions that have been left hanging

Speaking only for myself, I have no questions left hanging other than are they going to sell the wardrobe and sets they bought. I'd like to buy one of Madison's "Fusion Fierce" outfits for the next sci-fi con I go to.

Hon, you've done something nobody on this board has ever done. You have wore. me. the hell. out. I just don't get how you just keep on believing in this company. They didn't even have the decency to tell the actors who signed that they were giving up on the shows. Maybe there wasn't any point in continuing contract talks, (I disagree with that by the way) but the way they broke them off was disgusting.

PP is like Herman Cain and more women just keep coming out saying, "This dude is a sex fiend." Sorry I've heard enough. I heard enough when Susan Lucci served them a plate of STFU.

Thank you. Finally. +1,000,000.

The thing is John, PP could have been sitting on millions, but without the union contracts worked out to their and the unions' satisfaction, they ran the risk of losing all of the talent already associated with AMC and OLTL. These folks were not going to ditch their unions to sign up for this venture. Plus, PP would have been unable to secure new union talent to fill out the cast and crew. The only alternative was a bunch on non-union talent which frankly means a bunch of unbankable newbie names in front of the camera, and unproven staff behind the scenes. That has no bearing on talent, necessarily, look at some of the better web soaps (uh, keep looking), but I think PP had much bigger and more lucrative things in mind.

Did I miss something? This is the same conversation. Why did it need a brand new thread?

It would be cool to the lisencing agreement between ABC & PP. I think that would answer a lot of questions that have been left hanging

No one needs to know any of that IMO. Cady McClain was right. Who goes into a venture this big without doing their due dilligence. Who watching a soap as Jeff K claimed to(which I never believed) would think producing a soap would involve what Judge Judy would.No one with a brain. And these were people experienced in producing TV shows or so I have been told. Experienced producers and Hollywood execs. You can keep your pollyanna view of them but IMO they are no better than any of the poorly run businesses in this country who are only interested in making a buck and squeezing workers to achieve it.

The thing is John, PP could have been sitting on millions, but without the union contracts worked out to their and the unions' satisfaction, they ran the risk of losing all of the talent already associated with AMC and OLTL. These folks were not going to ditch their unions to sign up for this venture. Plus, PP would have been unable to secure new union talent to fill out the cast and crew. The only alternative was a bunch on non-union talent which frankly means a bunch of unbankable newbie names in front of the camera, and unproven staff behind the scenes. That has no bearing on talent, necessarily, look at some of the better web soaps (uh, keep looking), but I think PP had much bigger and more lucrative things in mind.

I agree with you on that Actors werent gonna abandon AFTRA and PP cant Make AMC Or OLTL non union since they are signatory shows to AFTRA. Im saying that If PP did not have the money, I would have concentrated on that and not the unions because without the dollars to produce, finalized union deals mean nothing.

Although there were posters on other boards saying the actors and shows shoulda left AFTRA so tthey could continue without a hassle but that wont ever happen

Also PP was way over their heads becaus they didnt understand the time it takes to produce daily dramas

Edited November 30, 201114 yr by John

PP woulda been better off saying we liscened AMC & OLTL to continue on line in 2012 and left it at that

PP woulda been better off saying we liscened AMC & OLTL to continue on line in 2012 and left it at that

Why? What does that solve? How does that change anything. The cost was still tons more than they expected. No. They should have done what any smart company would have done. Researched the shows and found out what was involved before making a deal. The shows are not as we have heard by MANY MANY MANY people modeled or viable as they are now. These were not thriving shows that were on the cusp of some new trend. They were old dated shows that needed someone with vision and interest in sustaining them in the 21st century to revive them.