What does Trevor choosing to leave have to do with the gushing coming from the two ladies and I have no rules for anyone or anything and both Kassie and Kristen are free to respond anyhow they please which leaves me just as free to react anyway I please and I didn't think it was cool the way the two ladies took to their personal facebook/twitter account gushing not simply stating how great it was to have RH back when Trevor was still working on the show. You see that decision was all theirs, take it how you like it I am not bashing anyone, I have no preference for any actor those statements like this video just seems off to me, why are they making a video for the audience of their goodbyes to Trevor was one made for Robin.

This makes no sense. I regret my decision to engage in this debate. Blessings!

The moment they made their choices public then it was up for discussion or are you asking about the goodbye video. Ii just seems strange that ABCD felt it needed to make a goodbye video just for Trevor it makes me wonder why, I didn't know that was a crime.

Case in point. Some are acting like it's a crime they made this video.

This makes no sense. I regret my decision to engage in this debate. Blessings!

Totally agree, R Sinclair.

You're right, it's not. I just needed to point out the hypocrisy.

Right on!

I think both have the right to gush about RH being back if they want. It's not like they were doing it at Trevor's expense. This whole thing is ridiculous, cause they're all friends and are sad Trevor's leaving

You're right, it's not. I just needed to point out the hypocrisy.

And I get that. But what good is it to keep pointing out his hypocrisies and engaging him even more into this argument when it's clear he isn't changing his mind? I'm not saying you're wrong; and I'm not saying he's wrong either. I'm saying this is indicative of a problem many of us (myself included!) have on this board. We almost always get into these squabbles that are fun to read and/or engage in at first but very quickly turn nasty and unpleasant for all concerned including those who are just bystanders, for lack of a better word. Pretty soon, all that's left are hurt feelings, unresolved issues (trust me, this entire debate will crop up elsewhere, in another form and on another thread, sooner rather than later) and yet one more locked thread.

When will we learn that there's a time for debating and there's a time for realizing some people's minds are just intractable on particular issues? For that matter, when will we learn to stop being so close-minded, to actually "listen" to what the other side has to say, and to realize -- oh, I don't know -- that maybe they have a point and it would benefit everyone to acknowledge they do, admit their own mistakes, and move on?

Edited September 14, 201114 yr by Khan

I make mistakes everyday. Taking it to that kind of bullshit is not among them. I'd say the same thing if it was some castmember on Y&R or GH who I didn't give a [!@#$%^&*] about getting called "two-faced" - there's just no evidence of it beyond fannish, clannish nonsense. Like when people were on Sarah Glendening's ass for playing Marissa, who is scripted to give JR the business.

Like when people were on Sarah Glendening's ass for playing Marissa, who is scripted to give JR the business.

Well, those people often struggle separating reality from fiction; and they shouldn't be engaged into conversation at all costs.

What does Trevor choosing to leave have to do with the gushing coming from the two ladies and I have no rules for anyone or anything and both Kassie and Kristen are free to respond anyhow they please which leaves me just as free to react anyway I please and I didn't think it was cool the way the two ladies took to their personal facebook/twitter account gushing not simply stating how great it was to have RH back when Trevor was still working on the show. You see that decision was all theirs, take it how you like it I am not bashing anyone, I have no preference for any actor those statements like this video just seems off to me, why are they making a video for the audience of their goodbyes to Trevor was one made for Robin.

chyti,

If you scroll back through OLTL's Facebook page, you'll find many others who agree with you it was not cool behavior.

This video sure came off as an attempt at PR damage control to me.

And I get that. But what good is it to keep pointing out his hypocrisies and engaging him even more into this argument when it's clear he isn't changing his mind?

Khan, let me get this straight once and for all, you feel I'm a hypocrite for objecting to a poster being bashed when I said actresses being bashed are ok?

Well, I already OWNED to MontyB my feelings on this:

"I think actresses are fair game but posters are not."

And frankly I don't see that as hypocritical but respecting the rules here. This site is about debating on every aspect of our shows and that includes the stars' interviews.

What this site is not about... or what I thought this site was not about... is attacking posters.

When will we learn that there's a time for debating and there's a time for realizing some people's minds are just intractable on particular issues? For that matter, when will we learn to stop being so close-minded, to actually "listen" to what the other side has to say, and to realize -- oh, I don't know -- that maybe they have a point and it would benefit everyone to acknowledge they do, admit their own mistakes, and move on?

The biggest problem on this board isn't really intractible disagreements, Khan. For example, CarlD2 and I hold many polar opposite povs on OLTL yet we manage to keep our debates quite civil because we stick to discussing the show versus psycho-analyzing and attacking each other.It's the latter that will get a thread into trouble every single time... and such was the case in here... again.

Further, you and MontyB just proved quite eloquently you can voice objections to actress bashing without resorting to personal attacks.

Edited September 16, 201114 yr by TeamEric

Khan, let me get this straight once and for all, you feel I'm a hypocrite for objecting to a poster being bashed when I said actresses being bashed are ok?

No, that's not how I feel, but I do apologize if you feel that's how I feel.

Edited September 15, 201114 yr by Khan

Don't mind me, I'm just checking my watch.

This video sure came off as an attempt at PR damage control to me.

Seriously? WOW

It didn't come off as anything of the sort. What damage control is needed? None at all.

I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation, dragonflies. The legions of Ford-loving Facebook fans are going to rise up any second with an awesome power beyond our imagining. Sure, TSJ left the show of his own accord, but there's got to be some way to make OLTL pay. It's The Last Temptation of Frank Valentini.

Edited September 15, 201114 yr by Vee

It's The Last Temptation of Frank Valentini.

That's one Host I do not wish to partake of at Mass.

Yeah, I just wanted to use that in a sentence, I wasn't really taking it to the hoop.