GH: Classic Thread

[Marco Dane]

I miss this GH, before Sonny's nonsense kicked in.

[titan1978]

I don’t think he lacked vulnerability. I just think he played it as it was written, either by choice or because it’s what he was told to do, and it lacked some of the nuance that might have helped for a redemption story. I got the downward spiral, but I also found very little to root for with Tony.

I will say that it all felt very real though. His slow descent felt lived in. And I know he was actually excited to play the stories until it just became him being bitter and appearing a few times a month with no actual story anymore.

Tony became the first character that was against Carly that the show worked overtime to make it seem like she didn’t deserve it. They did it here and there with Robin back then too, especially when she told AJ the truth, but it was Robin so they were more equals. First Tony, then AJ and the Quartermaines, then anybody not on team Carly.

Edited December 31, 2024 by titan1978

[Marco Dane]

General Homicide Killer should popup to get rid of some of the bloated cast. Have Lucy do an anniversary tour of the book's original release. 

[titan1978]

He should never have been allowed to dominate the entire show. And obviously the Nielsen audience felt the same way because during the total domination of Sonny/Carly/Jason and overall darkness of the show they lost millions of viewers. But Frons didn’t care because he was plotting the end of soaps.

[victorlord75]

I was not watching GH when Elizabeth got raped, but my friends who did at the time all thought that Tony was the rapist.  Tony was drinking heavily and was apparently in a nasty stage.  It is hearsay because I wasn't watching.  I just remember what my friends told me.

[Vee]

I honestly don't know. For some reason I got the sense he was supposed to off himself or be killed by police, but who knows.

I do think that may have been intended by Guza, but vetoed. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. Or maybe it was always just a red herring.

Edited December 31, 2024 by Vee

[Vee]

It was a Ron special. Just cheap, quick drama for the anniversary. He did the same thing with Laura and Scott's nonsensical offscreen reunion, engagement and 30-second remarriage the at the same time. Doesn't matter if it makes sense. He did this many times at both shows.

[carolineg]

That sounds plausible to me.  Killed by the police or killing himself could have been a turn taken although I am glad the show didn't do that.  Kidnapping Robin without her meds was a pretty deep hole to dig Tony out of but I never felt it was entirely malicious.  He just got into a situation he didn't think through at all and wasn't in his right mind.

I have never heard the Liz rape theory.  Very interesting.  I can wrap my mind around it because I think there were multiple clues it was possible.  I glad that got vetoed too.  That really doesn't seem like Tony even while drunk and a bit crazy.  The Robin/Michael stuff at least made some sense.

So stupid.  I am sure there are Sonny/Brenda stans that ate that up but not me.  It made Jax and Brenda look stupid and Sonny turned her down anyways for Konnie.  No point.  Except for a few funny Carly/Brenda moments and the vague Michael tease the whole return was worthless.  I would hate for that to be my last memory of Brenda on screen.  Even Brenda coming back with Michael's kid at some point (which I do not endorse) is pointless because Michael has already built a Corinthos level stable of kids in 2025.

[DRW50]

Maybe they'll bring her back with another Dante child and she, Brooklyn and Lulu will form a club. Or Kristina will rage at them as she lost her child and then falls out another window.

[carolineg]

Horrible thought.  Brenda already has 1 too many kids.  I wouldn't be opposed to her throwing Kristina out of a window, but Sonny would probably be sad about that if he doesn't die of his heart attack yesterday.  

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  I kid, it's more likely Brenda throws Kristina out a window than Sonny dying.

[DRW50]

Joking aside or taking another long-lost kid out of the story, Brenda returning and being on trial for somehow injuring Kristina would have been some juicy drama, maybe the only Sonny drama that could interest me right now. 

[carolineg]

It could be drama.  It's hard for me to picture anything FV and co would do with Brenda since they don't care at all about the character.  I just don't think it would be too outside the box-work at Deception, push and pull with Sonny, hanging out with Lois, etc.  I doubt GH in 2025 would take any risk on such a popular character and put her in any perceived negative light.

[Khan]

 

I've heard two, very conflicting stories about Liz's rape and the writers' intentions.  One was that Tony was intended to be the rapist; the other was that they never intended her rapist to be found.  I don't know how true either of those stories are, but it does suggest that TPTB interfered somewhat as the story rolled out.

Edited January 1 by Khan

[Vee]

I think the latter theory is true. I've heard it before. I think it may be MVJ's own personal story, though I may be wrong.

[Franko]

This talk about Tony made me reread the summaries for when he arrived in April 1984. I was under the impression that Tony & Tania was something thrown together once Frisco & Felicia took off, but it was a slow burning possibility from the get-go. Kudos to the writers for opting not to go with a brother vs. brother situation. Also, I still say that Tony and Ginny had some chem testing.