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OLTL Discussion for the week of August 15th

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Oh, I don't want the Irene mess wrapped up yet. I want her to continue making trouble and deepening the mystery. But as for Todd's identity, I doubt it's going anywhere. She could reveal she's lying. But she won't, and we both know that. OLTL wanted to bring back the original Todd while preserving TSJ's run as the character. They have done that.

Like I said multiple times already, I agreed with Khan. There is nothing to stop RC/TIIC/PP from flipping this script tomorrow. You somehow naively believe this will never be rewritten. Heck, I believe Victor Lord was DEAD FOREVER but boy was I wrong...

RC could reveal Victor II was a CLONE and those rumors of Irene's lifework being some ridiculous sci-fi clone crap could be true... I put nothing past him after this ABSURD week.

I have good reason to believe that was exactly the case, yes. Because you're hurt and angry - perhaps justifiably to some degree - you choose to believe OLTL has secretly hated TSJ for eight years while all the while giving him major promotion and frontburner airtime for almost a decade.

I gather Khan is a big TSJ fan too? You keep ignoring how many folks who are NOT TSJ fans are rolling their eyes at this absurd story.

And I never said OLTL secretly hated TnT OR TSJ. You get your facts wrong all the time, then refuse to admit when your points are based on those faulty facts and then worse turn every debate very personal and that is so tiresome.

btw, I have very good source to believe TSJ was deliberately given a push out the door offer he couldn't accept.

I could feel the frisson flowing through you as you typed the words "Kassie's dead body."

"Honey," the difference between you and I, is I OWN my bias. You try to pretend being all objective and that is a CROCK.

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As Maxine Waters would say, "I'm tired, y'all!" LOL!

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I gather Khan is a big TSJ fan too?

Oh, HELL no!

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You know who I'm a big fan of? Mark Lawson. So where's my "two Brodys" story that you promised me, huh, Ron? Where is it???

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You know who I'm a big fan of? Mark Lawson. So where's my "two Brodys" story that you promised me, huh, Ron? Where is it???

Wow two Brodys, that would be great. I'll take one!

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Stand down, girl, I got dibs first! :)

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Awe, Tea and Dani are so happy right now I don't want to see them get the rug pulled out. I think I'm done watching now. I don't care to see that fallout just yet......... Tomorrow will be painful for me to watch. sad.png

The Todd and Hope scenes were really sweet. I like Blaire and Tomas and kind of want them to be together even though I know there's no chance of that.

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FV publicly tried to put all the blame for no Viki/Tina on ES because of her "long annual vacation." Some fans then blamed it all on her too. But the fact is, FV is the one who planned on absenting Viki for that long on purpose, knowing that meant ES and AE wouldn't have any time together.

I don't remember anyone blaming Erika, be they fans or Frank Valentini. Everyone in fandom at the time blamed Brian Frons for allegedly forcing OLTL to let Evans go.

I also don't remember Viki ever referencing speaking to Tina or patching things up in the last three years, and I paid attention. In conclusion, slow your roll, thanks.

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Like I said multiple times already, I agreed with Khan. There is nothing to stop RC/TIIC/PP from flipping this script tomorrow. You somehow naively believe this will never be rewritten.

Oh, it could be, sure. But it won't.

I gather Khan is a big TSJ fan too? You keep ignoring how many folks who are NOT TSJ fans are rolling their eyes at this absurd story.

No, Khan is sensible. He's not lighting a candle and living on a prayer, and rewriting the show as it goes or ignoring difficult questions. I'd note that your every complaint about Todd being "too sweet, too nice" disappears whenever TSJ's Todd played happy family scenes with Tea and Danielle instead of Blair and their kids, but I know you'd ignore that as well.

And I never said OLTL secretly hated TnT OR TSJ.

Okay, then answer the question: why were they so "determined" to write him out after eight years on the frontburner, if you insist on believing they did not want to keep him?

btw, I have very good source to believe TSJ was deliberately given a push out the door offer he couldn't accept.

Then we must both have very good sources and that must be very nice for both of us. I know what I believe. You can go for what makes you feel righteous. I can go for what's realistic.

"Honey," the difference between you and I, is I OWN my bias. You try to pretend being all objective and that is a CROCK.

What is my bias, TeamEric? You already told me I "hate" someone. Who do I hate? Florencia Lozano? I was glad she came back to the show, I see no reason for her not to continue on it. Trevor St. John? I wish he wasn't leaving, this is a good character. Todd and Tea? I don't hate them, they're just not for me and I find them screwed-up. Did I enjoy Todd and Blair in the past? Sure, and I wrote them off at least three years ago. I also enjoyed Todd and Rebecca as a kid, I wish they'd brought Reiko Aylesworth back and done her return properly, and I have often wanted to see both Todd and Blair paired with other people in successful storylines. I am not loyal to a fanbase over Todd. I watch the whole show for the whole show, I always have, I am arrogant enough to think it allows me a degree of perspective. You should try it sometime without thinking of the couple first.

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No, Khan is sensible. He's not lighting a candle and living on a prayer [...].

No, but he's givin' love a bad name. (Or goin' down in a blaze of glory. Take your pick.)

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I almost hate to admit, but I enjoyed today's episode--some nice scenes (though Todd seemed to be teaching Hope a mixed message by first saying Belle shouldn't get in the car with Beast or he'd kill him and then saying she should fall in love with him :P). Even this Pained Pony stuff will be a bit more bearable for me now that Natalie is off with Rex. Has Rex already dropped his revenge angle because of Ghost Gigi? not that I mind--Rex gnashing his teeth was even worse than comic Rex, but it seems like every Summer or so Ron Carlivati sends Rex on some sort of out of town "comic" mission. But without reading spoilers, I already know this will tie into some other more interesting stories, so I guess I can give it some chance.

I haven't caught up with all of this thread so I'm sure these points have been brought up, but I am very mixed on the Todd stuff. It's given some good material, and I can't say I've not enjoyed watching. But just so many holes--if Victor Jr was soooo simple and slow but brainwashing him made him brilliant, couldn't Irene have brainwashed him to be brilliant ages back (albeit not Todd)? Does Frank V hink viewers like to see scars getting carved on people's faces, because I can't think of any other reason to have Irene give Todd the scar only to then immediately completely redo his face anyway...

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I Facebooked CP Talent (Andrew Trischitta's management group) asking if he had filmed for the opening yet and they said

"he did, hoping it airs soon #anxiously awaiting as well : )"

And I had asked Josh Kelly a few days ago and he more or less confirmed his as well. No idea if any of the vet cast re-did shots, though.

So here's what we've got

In: Cutter, Jack, Todd, Tomas

Possibly In: Cord, Kim, Tina

Out: Charlie, Cristian, Dorian, Joey, Kelly, Langston, Marty, Victor

Possibly Out: Gigi - I doubt it though since Farah's still on contract

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Pained Pony? LOL! That's good!

Todd seemed to be teaching Hope a mixed message by first saying Belle shouldn't get in the car with Beast or he'd kill him and then saying she should fall in love with him.

One thing's for sure: AMC and OLTL's move online will bring an end to these nauseating Disney product placements. Maybe.

Does Frank V hink viewers like to see scars getting carved on people's faces, because I can't think of any other reason to have Irene give Todd the scar only to then immediately completely redo his face anyway...

That's the one part of Irene's story that keeps giving me heartburn.

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No thanks. The last thing I need is TSJ taking over my life.

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