13 minutes ago, EricMontreal22 said:

OK remind me--what were they gonna do?

Allegedly, during the final weeks or months of OLTL's network run, Frank and/or Ron pitched Judith Light (or her reps) the idea of Karen returning with the news that she and Herb Callison had married in the years both were away from Llanview.  If that's true - and like I said before, it sounds totally like something Ron would've done - then not only would it have been illogical (they really expected us to believe that Karen would've hooked up with the man who forced her to reveal to everyone in town that she was a prostitute?) but it also would've pissed off everyone who rooted for her and Larry BITD.

Fortunately, JL had enough sense to tell them what they could do with their pitch (again, allegedly, lol).

15 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

The idea of a Same Time, Next Year scenario makes sense for Karen and Larry. I'd love to see that (and her reaction to him and Dan dating the same woman).

Not to mention, her reaction to Larry's admission that he helped Victor Lord take Megan away from Viki at birth.   

Just now, Khan said:

Allegedly, during the final weeks or months of OLTL's network run, Frank and/or Ron pitched Judith Light (or her reps) the idea of Karen returning with the news that she and Herb Callison had married in the years both were away from Llanview.  If that's true - and like I said before, it sounds totally like something Ron would've done - then not only would it have been illogical (they really expected us to believe that Karen would've hooked up with the man who forced her to reveal to everyone in town that she was a prostitute?) but it also would've pissed off everyone who rooted for her and Larry BITD.

Fortunately, JL had enough sense to tell them what they could do with their pitch (again, allegedly, lol).

Not to mention, her reaction to Larry's admission that he helped Victor Lord take Megan away from Viki at birth.   

And she was meant to be Teri Conn's mother, wasn't she? 

I guess they can still reunite when QVC unveils the Who's the Boss collection.

I can just imagine Marco and Karen in Eterna - Marco trying to find gold coins and instead just getting plastic junk, and Karen telling how stupid the whole thing is and they need to find Viki and get the hell out. 

Karen was probably too no-nonsense for any of that period. 

That would be an actual good use of AI - one of those unsettling anime recreations of Karen reacting to this:

 

24 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

That makes sense. I could also see her becoming a madam but trying to be a "good" madam.

That makes sense, too.  Karen would be the type to look out for "her girls" and maybe encourage them to get out of "the life" whenever possible.

1 minute ago, DRW50 said:

And she was meant to be Teri Conn's mother, wasn't she? 

No, she was meant to be "Kristine Karr," or whoever, Katrina's daughter whom Marco and Karen had switched with Jenny's dead baby in the hospital all those years ago.

5 minutes ago, Khan said:

No, she was meant to be "Kristine Karr," or whoever, Katrina's daughter whom Marco and Karen had switched with Jenny's dead baby in the hospital all those years ago.

Oh that's right. Thanks. 

Bleh.

I know Nancy Snyder was long retired from acting but I wonder if they ever even asked her back or if she wasn't famous enough. 

At least we were spared casting Dinah Manhoff (nothing against Dinah) as Katrina.

6 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I can just imagine Marco and Karen in Eterna - Marco trying to find gold coins and instead just getting plastic junk, and Karen telling how stupid the whole thing is and they need to find Viki and get the hell out. 

That would be an actual good use of AI - one of those unsettling anime recreations of Karen reacting to this:

 

LMAO!!

4 hours ago, DRW50 said:

At least we were spared casting Dinah Manhoff (nothing against Dinah) as Katrina.

Diana Canova waited by that phone ... 😜

Y'all laugh, but I'd kill to see Dinah Manoff and Diana Canova back on television, lol.

3 hours ago, Khan said:

Y'all laugh, but I'd kill to see Dinah Manoff and Diana Canova back on television, lol.

Actually... I would like see both come out of retirement and at least do a guest spot on a sitcom or something.  

I was not watching at the time, but I remember there was some controversy during the time of the "Who killed Georgie?" storyline. I seem to recall that some columnists felt that the show was teetering on racism in the way they were writing the character of Rachel. Am I misremembering? I missed a lot of JFP's tenure on OLTL so I don't want to speak out of turn if I am confusing this with something else. 

1 hour ago, chrisml said:

I was not watching at the time, but I remember there was some controversy during the time of the "Who killed Georgie?" storyline. I seem to recall that some columnists felt that the show was teetering on racism in the way they were writing the character of Rachel. Am I misremembering? I missed a lot of JFP's tenure on OLTL so I don't want to speak out of turn if I am confusing this with something else. 

The show's treatment of Rachel had been degrading ever since she came back in the guise of Mari Morrow (?). She became a drug addict and some kind of dirty dancer. Then even with the recast to Sandra P. Grant, she was still pathetic, clinging to Drew, airing out dirty laundry on Tad's talk show. By the time of the Georgie story, there were extremely ugly scenes of Georgie berating her and beating her bloody with a telephone. I'm sure today people would say it is "woke," or whatever the [!@#$%^&*], but I did see her treatment as racist. But it's not up to me to say that. 

I honestly found the scenes of Georgie clobbering and bullying her unintentionally hilarious - pure ham from both actors and a good representation of what JFP quickly brought to the show. But yes, Rachel was treated horribly after Ellen Bethea left, and it stayed that way til Bethea fortunately came back (and then Daphnee Duplaix took over too briefly in 2009). And I do think it was racist for several years running.

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omg the Todd one sent me

Not the 1:1 on Carlotta!

So interesting to see the original that it was compared with. I wasn't watching during some of that time, so I don't think I ever saw that faces opening, or if I did, I didn't pay attention.  

I'm most familiar with the original fireplace opening.  I sort of remember the the sunrise opening, but it wasn't as iconic as the fireplace to me.

Re: the faces opening:  I recognize most of those characters/actors, but not all.
So lovely to see Erin Torpey. She's the only Jessica I acknowledge.
Who's the policewoman character?