They won't pull it off. They'll get just enough viewers to make more profit than AMC did, and then ABC will do just like CBS did and tell us that that food program is a HUGE hit and that it's EXACTLY what viewers want, even though the ratings will be no less than a shade lower than AMC's across the board.

ABC does have The View. They have months until AMC and OLTL go off the air. ABC can promote the new shows by having Mario, Tim Gunn, etc. appear on The View as well as Good Morning America. I'm a Mario fan, but he and these others are minor cable reality show celebs. I don't know if they can pull off a network daytime show.

Yes, but they can't have them on The View every week. I think for a show like this to be truly successful, audiences have to become familiar with them and like them by seeing their image redistributed constantly. That's why CBS calls them "buddies", they have someone become a special correspondent on their shows once a week for a few months or even a year so that audiences would become familiar with them before giving them their own show.

The last person I think CBS was developing a show with was Valerie Bertinelli. Her show didn't happen as reported here by the NY Post:

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/the_list_Cf9pR1vOyBLzJX6sIbpIKI?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

But you see that quite a while before it was set to launch she became a special correspondent ("buddy") on Rachael Ray:

http://www.rachaelray.com/article.php?article_id=38

Thus far, I think that method has yielded the most successful results with these lifestyle type shows, and I just don't think ABC has a strong enough brand in daytime to be able to launch anything else - especially not two shows.

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But they do, that's the thing. I think the worst thing to happen to soaps was for some of these shows, particularly the CBS Television Distribution shows, to have as much success as they have had in syndication. When you consider Dr. Phil, Rachael Ray, The Doctors, Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown, the ratings they get and how much cheaper they are to produce, it makes sense that others would try to emulate.

It's lists like this that make me say Frons knows his audience all too well. This is what they want. They want the Chew and Revolution. They want to be told what to eat, wear and think, and watch other women on TV clap like seals every ten minutes as Z lister after Z lister comes out to knowingly grouse how hubby leaves the toilet seat down, or whatever inane nonsense these shows talk about.

Did Kelly Ripa mention anything this morning?

yes she did. I uploaded the clip

It's lists like this that make me say Frons knows his audience all too well. This is what they want. They want the Chew and Revolution. They want to be told what to eat, wear and think, and watch other women on TV clap like seals every ten minutes as Z lister after Z lister comes out to knowingly grouse how hubby leaves the toilet seat down, or whatever inane nonsense these shows talk about.

The thing about it all, though, is that the ratings for Rachael Ray, Joe Brown, The Doctors, Phil, etc, aren't crazy high compared to the soaps' ratings. Those shows are pulling in the numbers soaps were getting 2003-2004ish, and it's a no-brainer that that food program and that other show won't rate as well as those other syndicated shows. I just wish they'd stop telling us that this is all about higher ratings and what "the viewers want" and be honest about the sh!t. These shows are cheaper. They're cheaper. They make more money because it takes less money to make them. Just. Be. F!cking. Honest. And stop with the spin.

The thing about it all, though, is that the ratings for Rachael Ray, Joe Brown, The Doctors, Phil, etc, aren't crazy high compared to the soaps' ratings. Those shows are pulling in the numbers soaps were getting 2003-2004ish, and it's a no-brainer that that food program and that other show won't rate as well as those other syndicated shows. I just wish they'd stop telling us that this is all about higher ratings and what "the viewers want" and be honest about the sh!t. These shows are cheaper. They're cheaper. They make more money because it takes less money to make them. Just. Be. F!cking. Honest. And stop with the spin.

Yeah, these are the latest ratings for the top 25 shows in syndication (Judge Judge's numbers are pretty insane though, even though she benefits from first and second run):

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/04/13/syndicated-tv-ratings-top-25-nielsen-change-means-charlie-sheen-is-now-winning-in-syndication-too/89390

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The thing about it all, though, is that the ratings for Rachael Ray, Joe Brown, The Doctors, Phil, etc, aren't crazy high compared to the soaps' ratings. Those shows are pulling in the numbers soaps were getting 2003-2004ish, and it's a no-brainer that that food program and that other show won't rate as well as those other syndicated shows. I just wish they'd stop telling us that this is all about higher ratings and what "the viewers want" and be honest about the sh!t. These shows are cheaper. They're cheaper. They make more money because it takes less money to make them. Just. Be. F!cking. Honest. And stop with the spin.

Right. If these shows were successful enough then they would have replaced soaps years ago. If anything a glut of these might hurt the more popular lifestyle shows.

I love Kelly Ripa.

In an interview I just read on TV Guide it says ABC is open to having offers from cable and other networks on taking over the shows. According to TV Guide, OWN and Hallmark have both passed.

It's a nice effort but no one is going to pick them up.

From Susan Lucci:

Susan_Lucci Susan Lucci

To my loyal fans~thank you for the outpouring of spirit and support. Your kind words mean so very much to me...

In an interview I just read on TV Guide it says ABC is open to having offers from cable and other networks on taking over the shows. According to TV Guide, OWN and Hallmark have both passed.

It's a nice effort but no one is going to pick them up.

It would've been nice, but just not economical because I'm sure ABC would only license the rights and not completely sell it to someone else.

A nice message from Stephanie Gatchet.

http://www.stephaniegatschet.com/

From the producers of The Revolution:

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Revolution-Producer-Soap-1031882.aspx

In an interview I just read on TV Guide it says ABC is open to having offers from cable and other networks on taking over the shows. According to TV Guide, OWN and Hallmark have both passed.

It's a nice effort but no one is going to pick them up.

Yeah, Oprah already said several weeks ago that there are no plans for any scripted programs on OWN

Sorry if this was posted but Robin Strasser's response

Robin Strasser (Dorian, OLTL) is among the many actors upset about the show's cancellation. "It's an enormous sense of loss, a cavalier and utterly irresponsible decision," the actress tells Digest. "They're not thinking straight

and Erika Slezak:

As OLTL cast members continue to reel from the shocking cancellation news, beloved vet, Erika Slezak (Viki), who celebrated her 40th anniversary with the show last month, weighs in on the news. "I am so terribly sad that we are losing ONE LIFE TO LIVE. This is a show with so much heart and life in it and we have had so many wonderful loyal viewers. I am deeply sorry. We have been a family for so long, and the sadness of this loss extends to all of us. This is not only a loss to television, but the entire entertainment industry and to the many hard working people of New York who have been the heart and soul of ONE LIFE TO LIVE."

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I wish someone would take a chance on scripted shows - just talk and bad imitations of reality shows makes a network more likely to blend in with everyone else and disappear.

I don't really mean OLTL or AMC - I can see why a network is not going to buy them.

And the hits keep on coming.

The cast and crew of ONE LIFE TO LIVE and ALL MY CHILDREN aren't the only ones losing their jobs when the shows go off the air.

Soap Opera Digest and Soap Opera Weekly are expected to drastically trim their staffs, the New York Post's Keith Kelly reports. As many as half of the 70 employees in the New York office will be laid off.

Publisher Source Interlink is turning the magazines' operations over to National Enquirer and American Media Inc. in a licensing deal.

This is like miny Enron to the soap industry. All this b/c of some fat lazy bald basterd.

And the hits keep on coming.

This is like miny Enron to the soap industry. All this b/c of some fat lazy bald basterd.

thats what I said. This will have bigger impacts beyond simply AMC and OLTL