Where's my post

Where's dragonflies, I'd like to know if she still likes Cara now.

I would add my two cents into this cancellation talk but I'm afraid my opinion would be of unpopular opinion for saving any soap at this point.

But I will say this, I'm more baffle at the utterly faulty reporting that the soap press have been doing before and after ABC announced the cancellation of OLTL and AMC. It seems like the soap press was a dog chasing his own tail, and of course, the ego tripping of Jamey and Nelson is turning me off to saving any of these soaps. LOL!

What I'm more surprised no one has talk about a lot is lack of interest the unions are towards the soap industry; it seems for the most part they been lazy with doing any thing supportive and only talk tough when the soaps are canceled and go back into hiding.

To be frank, I can't blame Frons or any network that want to cancel any soaps for that matter or even if BBC canned any of their soaps to keep the network afloat, It all comes down to making money and making them marketable for the network to care about them again.

Is that a new AMC picture of Cady?

If they do a final cast photo, she better be in it!

even if BBC canned any of their soaps to keep the network afloat, It all comes down to making money and making them marketable for the network to care about them again.

Are you sure about that? Canning EastEnders would not be a smart decision on the BBC's part considering it's one of their most-watched shows. The UK soap situation is very, very different from the US soap situation. Even Doctors, which airs in the daytime in the UK, gets a bigger audience than most of our daytime soaps, and the UK's population is much smaller than the US's.

Where's my post ? Lets try this again shall we?

Where's dragonflies, I'd like to know if she still likes Cara now.

Of course

I'm happy if Tad and Dixie fans get some kind of happy ending even though I'm all for Tad & Cara

Where does Cara go from here?

Where does Cara go from here?

Who says she's going anywhere? Dixie could be appearing to give her blessing to their marriage.

Who says she's going anywhere? Dixie could be appearing to give her blessing to their marriage.

That's the first thing that came to my mind.

Who says she's going anywhere? Dixie could be appearing to give her blessing to their marriage.

Oh yeh that's right she really is dead. So it's not Dixie, it's Spixie.

Who says she's going anywhere? Dixie could be appearing to give her blessing to their marriage.

I think that's possible too, LB doesn't have enough time to unpancake Dixie

Where's my post

It's a casting spoiler, and it's already posted in Spoiler Island.

It's a casting spoiler, and it's already posted in Spoiler Island.

Ah sorry about that.

Are you sure about that? Canning EastEnders would not be a smart decision on the BBC's part considering it's one of their most-watched shows. The UK soap situation is very, very different from the US soap situation. Even Doctors, which airs in the daytime in the UK, gets a bigger audience than most of our daytime soaps, and the UK's population is much smaller than the US's.

I was just going off on reports that I been reading about the British government aggressively pushing for the BBC to cut budget and going as far as to eliminating the annual license fee that British viewers pay.

As I'm posting, I don't have the time to look up the costs of the UK soaps, but with the way the economics of the UK and EU for that matter, I wouldn't be surprise if the BBC go through a major shake up sooner or later.

Dixie could be appearing to give her blessing to their marriage.

Just like Frankie on the AW finale (Cass/Lila).

I was just going off on reports that I been reading about the British government aggressively pushing for the BBC to cut budget and going as far as to eliminating the annual license fee that British viewers pay.

EastEnders saw an increase in their budget last year.

As I'm posting, I don't have the time to look up the costs of the UK soaps, but with the way the economics of the UK and EU for that matter, I wouldn't be surprise if the BBC go through a major shake up sooner or later.

They're not going to cut EastEnders, which can pull in as much as 10 million viewers a night, over one million on the BBC3 rebroadcast, is their highest rated show, is their most widely distributed show worldwide, and has been their flagship show for over 25 years.

Not mention, EastEnders isn't just BBC One's highest rated show, there's weeks where EastEnders IS the highest rated program on British television period.

EastEnders annual budget is £29.8 million, which is close to $50 million USD. Last year because of the live episode, their budget increased by £500,000, which is close to a million USD.

The BBC spent 20% less on soaps last year, but EastEnders budget increased due to the live episode.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/mar/22/bbc-spend-soap-operas

BBC spends 20% less on soaps

The EastEnders live episode cost £696,000. Photograph: Adam Pensotti/BBC/PA

The BBC spent £102.5m last year on six TV soaps – including EastEnders, Casualty, Holby City and Doctors – a 20% drop overall in real terms in the past eight years.

The report on the cost management on BBC's continuing drama production by the National Audit Office for the BBC Trust also shows that EastEnders received an extra £500,000 on top of its £29.8m annual budget for last year's live episode to mark the show's 25th anniversary.

In the end the episode cost £696,000, with the difference being made up by economies on subsequent episodes of EastEnders.

The live 25th anniversary episode was broadcast on BBC1 in February last year and attracted 15.6 million viewers, the channel's highest audience since more than 20 million watched England lose to Portugal in the quarter-final of the Euro 2004 football tournament.

The NAO report shows that BBC Scotland charges its River City soap, made for Scottish viewers, the highest amount for overheads, representing 33.9% of the total production budget.

This compared with a 10.6% charge levied by BBC Vision on EastEnders, Casualty, Holby City and Doctors, and a 27% charge by BBC Wales for Pobol y Cwm.

The Scottish soap, which is also said to be a candidate for closure under the current 20% cuts being sought by the BBC director general, Mark Thompson, is also far more expensive than other continuing dramas examined by the NAO, costing £156,000 per hour, down from £210,000 two years ago.

This compares with £90,000 per hour for Pobol y Cwm, the Welsh language drama made by the BBC for S4C, and £109,000 for Doctors, the BBC1 daytime soap made in Birmingham.

The report shows that the efficiency savings of 3% a year plus inflation levied on Casualty, EastEnders and Holby City for the past three years, have led to reduced regular casts, from 18 to 17 in Holby and from 18 to 16 for Casualty.

However, it found that the average audience appreciation scores for the soaps rose, despite the economies, by 6.5%.

The NAO is concerned the BBC does not have a method of systematic cost benchmarking, to measure the comparative effectiveness of its soap and drama spending.

It is also concerned that a significant number of contracts are agreed with suppliers, without a second quote to ensure they are good value.

The NAO concluded: "We could not say whether the BBC is delivering value for money because it has not set audience-related performance objectives when deciding the future funding for individual continuing dramas."

It was also critical of the BBC's reliance on a metric called "cost per viewer hour" for its dramas, and points out that high production costs can be hidden by large audiences.

The NAO said this measure has significant drawbacks if the BBC is to adopt the "Delivering Quality First" strategy of fewer, bigger and better programmes. It may be that higher spending results in programmes more suited to frequent repeats.

The analysis shows that EastEnders costs 3.5 pence per viewer hour, while Casualty was 9.4 pence per viewer hour. Casualty also spent the highest amount, 17% of its budget, on stunts and special effects.

The BBC has rejected the suggestion of audience-related performance objectives describing them as micro management and excessive bureaucracy.

Amyas Morse, head of the NAO, said: "The BBC is doing a good job of applying basic financial controls and achieving steady cost reduction across its portfolio of continuing dramas. However, it should take a more holistic approach and compare the cost of these programmes with audience levels and opinions, both targeted and achieved, as these are critical measures of broadcast performance, and a key guide to whether the continuing dramas are delivering value for money."

Anthony Fry, BBC trustee with lead responsibility for value for money, said: "Popular, long-running dramas like EastEnders sit at the heart of the BBC schedule, generating loyalty from audiences as well as an environment for new writing, acting and production talent to flourish. They cost viewers less than they did 10 years ago, while audience approval is on the up.

"We accept the majority of the NAO's recommendations, with the exception of the suggestion that the BBC should set targets at drama level. We believe there is a risk that this could harm the BBC's ability to produce distinctive programming by acting as a disincentive to take creative risks and creating unnecessary bureaucracy."

Edited April 25, 201114 yr by Y&RWorldTurner