So OLTL was the #3 soap, beating GH and yet they still were cancelled.

GH is bleeding viewers, OLTL is gaining viewers and OLTL gets cancelled.

Not sure what exactly Brian Frons and Anne Sweeney were smoking but.....

Les hates soaps and I remember him being happy about ATWT's cancellation. I have no idea why CBS still airs soaps if they don't want them. Like people have been saying lately B&B needs to find a new home before 2013 gets here. Their doing too well overseas to be worried about staying on CBS.

Yeah, Brad Bell needs to get proactive and move B&B to cable before Les cancels B&B. If Brad was smart he'd try to get Lifetime to pick it up & pair it/cross promote with Project Runway. I wonder how much revenue B&B brings in from it's overseas airings. I wonder if it's enough to cover the costs to make the show & allowing Brad to sell the show dirt cheap to CBS?

So OLTL was the #3 soap, beating GH and yet they still were cancelled.

GH is bleeding viewers, OLTL is gaining viewers and OLTL gets cancelled.

Not sure what exactly Brian Frons and Anne Sweeney were smoking but.....

its been gaining ever since hitting a new low about 5 weeks ago. Oh well.

So OLTL was the #3 soap, beating GH and yet they still were cancelled.

GH is bleeding viewers, OLTL is gaining viewers and OLTL gets cancelled.

Not sure what exactly Brian Frons and Anne Sweeney were smoking but.....

Plus, OLTL is much cheaper to produce than GH.

It's a stupid business decision to kill two soaps at once because GH is now fried too without its lead-in. So I can only deduce ABC wants out of soaps period.

Let's face it: if ABC had to keep one soap, it would be GH over OLTL and it's not even a contest. OLTL is not in the national mainstream. Everybody in the world knows the GH name and AMC for that matter. Oh, well. GH's days are numbered. The handwriting was on the wall once it was announced SoapNet was flipping to Disney Jr. in Jan. 2012. Once that revenue stream was gone, it was just a matter of when they were going to announce, not if. Still can't believe we've lost FOUR shows in 24 months. (GL was announced April 2009.) So sad.

AMC is done. One Life still has some life.

Plus, OLTL is much cheaper to produce than GH.

It's a stupid business decision to kill two soaps at once because GH is now fried too without its lead-in. So I can only deduce ABC wants out of soaps period.

JG says that Anne Sweeney wanted all 3 gone and that GH better get their ratings up or they will be gone!

this is a sad day for the soap world. only 3 and a half soaps left: YR, GH, DAYS and the half hour BB. After today's debacle, who is going to invest on these soaps? YR is the only soap that seems healthy enough to endure a few (4?) more years on the air. Are we ready to import foreign soaps? Maybe a cable channel is smart enough and starts showing all the UK and Australian soaps.

They'd be better off showing telenovelas. Most people aren't going to make the commitment to watching a daily soap opera.

With 700K fewer viewers than they had last year, and the demo number dipping under 1 million, Y&R is not healthy either.

Edited April 15, 201114 yr by Bella1974

Let's face it: if ABC had to keep one soap, it would be GH over OLTL and it's not even a contest. OLTL is not in the national mainstream. Everybody in the world knows the GH name and AMC for that matter. Oh, well. GH's days are numbered. The handwriting was on the wall once it was announced SoapNet was flipping to Disney Jr. in Jan. 2012. Once that revenue stream was gone, it was just a matter of when they were going to announce, not if. Still can't believe we've lost FOUR shows in 24 months. (GL was announced April 2009.) So sad.

It's really interesting that they are having OLTL end in January, the same time as SOAPnet.

And I agree with you about GH, I think their days are about to be numbered as well. I think they will likely be gone by 2013 or 2014 at the latest.

Yeah, I said before I don't have a horse in this race since I haven't watched either AMC or OLTL in many years, but it is actually pissing me off looking at these ratings, lol. You have this cast/crew working hard to do well for ABC...and turns out they actually HAVE....and they get dumped despite having higher demos than most of the shows still on the air--the unowned shows on other networks.

This may be the first time I've ever seen a soap get canceled in daytime with higher demos than other shows that remain.

It's all due to Frons wanting out of soaps I think--GH won't last much longer.

Yeah, Brad Bell needs to get proactive and move B&B to cable before Les cancels B&B. If Brad was smart he'd try to get Lifetime to pick it up & pair it/cross promote with Project Runway. I wonder how much revenue B&B brings in from it's overseas airings. I wonder if it's enough to cover the costs to make the show & allowing Brad to sell the show dirt cheap to CBS?

Brad Bell needs to find someone with talent to write or produce his show. He has turned B&B into wretched, trashy, soulless, repetitive garbage, destroyed its history, and ruined any future for it.

OLTL beats GH

AMC

What is wrong with the Y&R and DOOL ?

Edited April 15, 201114 yr by Prizzle

Brad Bell needs to find someone with talent to write or produce his show. He has turned B&B into wretched, trashy, soulless, repetitive garbage, destroyed its history, and ruined any future for it.

Well that too. Brad is clearly burned out and out of ideas and needs to step aside from Head Writer.

I'm sad to see OLTL go. However, the writing clearly is on the wall that soaps are done. I think they will all go, sooner rather than later. And if that's the case, I'd rather see OLTL go out while it's still good and has a decent audience, rather than die out a pitiful death. They've got til January to tell some good stories and wrap up loose ends. Lets hope they do it right because when OLTL is good, it's really good.

PS: Keep Susan Haskell on now that the show is ending. There needs to be a good conclusion to Marty with the real Todd, Roger Howarth.

What happened last week on B&B??

I hadn't realized how bad Y&R and B&B have dropped from last year. Y&R close to a million viewers lost...ouch!!

Someone at CBS must be smiling...Les anyone

Pregnant Amber seducing then banging Liam took up a lot of time.. I think she sounded like one of those rated X movies cooing..

it was terrible...Hope/Liam/Amber....Thomas whining about his Taboo line....Brooke not supporting her husband but Thomas I think this was on

I like B/B but have little patience for Hope she's an insipid idiot instead of standing up for these young men she bounces to and fro between Liam/Oliver then runs around boo-hooing and seeking comfort while everyone coddles pure and innocent Hope against big bad Amber...they did this already with her..Steffy was chasing Bill and stalking Katie..

I'm sorry about two more soaps gone I'm surprised they cancelled two I was hoping for one to soften the blow.

Edited April 15, 201114 yr by Cyberologist