Days WTH That Makes No Sense

But that's not what you said you specifically said it "makes sense" to cancel AMC BUT not OLTL.

You said it several times. You based your whole theory that AMC should be canned off of OLTL being in 3rd....

LOL Well Okay if the Difference between 3rd & 6th is almost nothing....it does not say a lot!

Had OLTL been 3rd with 1,677,599 viewers and AMC was 6th with 400,000 you would have a case. But CLEARLY that's not the case.

Now you say ...they should not cancel any soap ...but if they do it should be AMC. ...and "no other choice makes sense"

AGAIN I disagree. or Should I say -1

There are other things that go into a show bringing in $$ other than ratings.

And if you simply think b/c OLTL has 100,000 more 18-49 viewers they are the clear choice to be saved, you're mistaken.

100,000 extra viewers is not going to save OLTL.

It should also be pointed out that AMC goes up against other soaps....does OLTL? Certainly NOT in my market.

However ...I do agree ABC should not cancel ANY soap(s)!!! None of the networks should!!!

IMO the Rating system needs to be overhauled!! I'm staring to have a hard time buying these ratings.

I have no idea what tangents you're going off on...frankly, I lost interest after your first couple sentences. Once again, I'll repeat...all that matters in daytime is women 18-49, a demographic that AMC has been in the basement with for a year now, while OLTL is currently in 3rd place. 150,000 viewers difference may not seem a lot to you, but trust me, it's a lot where advertisers are concerned.

And I say all this with no horse in this race. I haven't watched an ABC soap (or any soap, for that matter) in more than 5 years. AMC was my first soap, and OLTL my second. Eventually, I hit GH, as well.

But as an objective observer, I stand by my view of ABC Daytime, and the choices they should make about canceling a soap, if indeed they've chosen to do so. At this point, only AMC makes sense to cancel. (As I said, I'd give all three more time, but AMC would be first to go based on its demo history for the past year).

DAYS hits a new low in viewers? What a surprise.

The writing team seems to be hellbent on having Sami, Rafe, and EJ take up as much on-screen time as possible. Looking at the ratings trend during this Imposter Rafe/Sami and Nicole/EJ/Taylor crap show that viewers aren't interested.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if this week's numbers drop even further. This whole Fay storyline gets those five (mentioned above) even more on-screen time. Maybe Sami and EJ can get cloned next so there is no room left for anyone else on the show.

DAYS deserves the low ratings. Higley needs to be fired pronto.

I'm not going off on a tangent. & My horses in this race are.....soaps in general. AMC & OLTL are they only soaps I watch or have ever watched. My "tangent" or post was just in response to seeing "it makes sense to cancel"..... any (ABC)soap.

Again I say...if AMC goes....line up OLTL & prepare GH....they'll all be gone.

THUS I don't think it makes sense to say cancel one....b/c they are all virtually the same!!

Like a domino ..one goes get ready for the others.

& If the ABC soaps go....that will leave us with 3 soaps(that I don't watch, so sad for me) & how long do we think those 3 will last??

I'm not going off on a tangent. & My horses in this race are.....soaps in general. AMC & OLTL are they only soaps I watch or have ever watched. My "tangent" or post was just in response to seeing "it makes sense to cancel"..... any (ABC)soap.

Again I say...if AMC goes....line up OLTL & prepare GH....they'll all be gone.

THUS I don't think it makes sense to say cancel one....b/c they are all virtually the same!!

Like a domino ..one goes get ready for the others.

& If the ABC soaps go....that will leave us with 3 soaps(that I don't watch, so sad for me) & how long do we think those 3 will last??

I think we're talking about two different things, here. If the topic is that all soaps will be gone relatively soon, I agree with you. In fact, I'd say even Y&R won't go for more than a few more years. But if the topic is, which soap, if ABC has chosen to cancel ONE soap, should go...well...based on ratings, AMC can be the only logical choice.

Vets in front-burner story or good, mature story is not going to help AMC in 18-49, at least not that alone. They need to sleaze up the show particularly with the so-called hotties. I'm not condoning AMC turning into OLTL, I'm condoning them managing to lift up their 18-49 for survival. I am happy they managed to stay over 500,000 for another week, but the number is still really weak.

SOD will have their usual "Plan to Save Days" cover any week now with those ratings. A 1.4 for Days on Friday is panic inducing.

Maybe not. I don't think NBC can cancel DAYS after signing them to a 3 year contract. I don't think it is that simple. They may face a new round of budget cuts if they continue on this pattern though.

Vets in front-burner story or good, mature story is not going to help AMC in 18-49, at least not that alone. They need to sleaze up the show particularly with the so-called hotties. I'm not condoning AMC turning into OLTL, I'm condoning them managing to lift up their 18-49 for survival. I am happy they managed to stay over 500,000 for another week, but the number is still really weak.

Maybe not. I don't think NBC can cancel DAYS after signing them to a 3 year contract. I don't think it is that simple. They may face a new round of budget cuts if they continue on this pattern though.

Maybe SOD won't use the words "Plan to Save" and instead will go with "Crisis at Days" like they did last time. There is guaranteed to be another cover about the low ratings for Days on SOD as its almost a yearly event.

What happened on Days on Friday? a 1.4 nobody watched that day!

Box baby did NOTHING for AMC's ratings!

If AMC doesn't get a bump for Erica's new sl it's TOAST! Box baby has alreay become BORING and won't really have a chance at a ratings bump until the truth comes out!

Vets in front-burner story or good, mature story is not going to help AMC in 18-49, at least not that alone. They need to sleaze up the show particularly with the so-called hotties. I'm not condoning AMC turning into OLTL, I'm condoning them managing to lift up their 18-49 for survival. I am happy they managed to stay over 500,000 for another week, but the number is still really weak.

Maybe not. I don't think NBC can cancel DAYS after signing them to a 3 year contract. I don't think it is that simple. They may face a new round of budget cuts if they continue on this pattern though.

Any show can be canned for low ratings! Contract or not!

You know, I look at these ratings....OLTL in 3rd among 18-49 viewers....OLTL in 3rd among 18-34 viewers.....AMC in last place in both important demographics....Roger Howarth returning to OLTL...

I don't see how Brian Frons can possibly justify canceling OLTL over AMC, period. I can't even see him justify canceling OLTL at all at this point.

Eh...we'll see, though. But financially....it makes no sense to cancel any show other than AMC, if any at all. And all this talk from Daytime Confidential about the 2 PM timeslot being the reason OLTL might be canceled first....if they want that slot this badly, they'd be better off moving OLTL to 1 PM than keeping AMC at all based on these ratings.

For the year, both shows are tied in Household rating, and OLTL is one point higher in the demo. I think it's going to be hard to convince anyone that 1.0 is better than a .9, both numbers suck. It's just that simple. Neither show is performing well, so that's why both face cancellation.

LB started AMC dip into low demos with all the vet characters her last stint and don't see her younging it up this time around.

Megan Mctavish and Chuck Pratt trainwreck wrting styles seem to be what works for AMC's demo's!

The two Rafe's story is getting quite ridiculous on DAYS as if it wasn't already.

Looks like Corday's "Discount DAYS" has hit a snag, it's no longer garnering the viewers it once did. Hmmmm....

I have no idea what tangents you're going off on...frankly, I lost interest after your first couple sentences. Once again, I'll repeat...all that matters in daytime is women 18-49, a demographic that AMC has been in the basement with for a year now, while OLTL is currently in 3rd place. 150,000 viewers difference may not seem a lot to you, but trust me, it's a lot where advertisers are concerned.

I know that that demo is of utmost importance to soap execs. But I'm not sure it's as simple as saying it's the *only* thing that matters here, especially something I've never seen actually quoted--it's just become popular soap fan rhetoric.