OLTL: Discussion for the week December 13

[TeamEric]

I think the general Facebook OLTL poster is far more representative of the millions of casual viewers than those of us who post daily on the smaller populated soap boards.

[Vee]

I wasn't suggesting either group was representative of the general offline base. I do think that Facebook is only representative of casual teenagers who might tune in for a shirtless hunk or a musical guest or a single teen couple, and they don't last. Such is the nature of social media.

[TeamEric]

Ah if only OLTL Facebook was all casual teen viewers but having spent some time on that site recently I actually saw way more adult women posting their views. The poor little Ford boys isn't all teens gushing but many MOMS.

[DRW50]

I do wonder just how successful the efforts to make viewers dislike Matthew have been, because even at boards that are not fond of the Fords, like TWOP, there were some complaints about Matthew being a dick and so on.

[DeeeDee]

She went from being a WAY more tolerable alternative to Starr to WAY worse than Starr in a year.

[leahanna]

Eddie was brought on for the sole purpose of forcing us to like the Ford's, well guess what OLTL, I hate them more, I liked Eddie, from all those stupid photo shoots, that off key out of tune SN promo and all the airtime, I can not stand any of them or the brainless twits who love them, this story of who killed Eddie better get rid of at least a couple of them and the ones who survive should take a nice long vacation, I want to see vets and actors who can act

[jul21]

That sums up the Ford mess for me. I'm still incredibly disappointed that the show took Langston, one of my favorite younger characters, and completely ruined her by pairing her with the man who humiliated her and abused Jessica. As for whether facebook is representative, who the heck knows. Maybe it's becoming more representative and that's why Fang is so promoted. The ratings don't suggest the target audience is piling onboard for the abusefest or said another way- the saccharine instant redemption of Bobby Ford now in love with the oh so hot and desirable Langston.

[Antoyne]

So is it actually not a Whodunnit?

[DRW50]

Leccia's work on GL was uneven, but she had her moments when she was paired with Crystal Chappell, and also a few of her scenes with RPG. She was also good in a supporting role, as a wisecracking porn actress, in an indie movie, with Wes Ramsey and a few others. I don't know why OLTL needed to make her this doe-eyed victim. OLTL does not do female ingenues all that well, at least not once they get past the age of 18 or so.

[Juliajms]

Well, he is kind of an ass these day, but I like him anyway. It could be much worse.

[EricMontreal22]

I've loved JWS in the past--on Dawson's he was fine, his old GL work, and of course he was the first psycho I ever knew on a soap during his run as evil but slightly misguided Carter Jones on AMC/Loving (i wish some of that was on youtube). I haven't revisited that stuff, I didn't save any of it and it doesn't seem to be online, but I remember him being veryt compelling. With OLTL he just from the get go made WTF acting choices IMHO--and maybe I should blame the writer, EP and director for htis at least as much as him--mayeb they wante dhim to be as over the top as possible. But unlike Borne who even with awful material makes it work for me, this did not work.

First that weird accent and way of emphasising words. And then he had this campy almost gay (I hate to say especially since some like to brign up JWS's sexuality and I think that's irelevent to wehat kinds of characters he can play). When he swished his hips talking about how the boxing match needed a bit of "tail"? I dunno he never even seemed threatening--if I were Ford I'd just look at him and giggle.

This is what confounds me. Don't they realize that for years the kinds of guys young teen girls, and evcen older teen girls often go to, at least as much as the "bad boy" cliche, isn't what the networks deem as sexy?? I mean for God's sake look at Justin Bieber who makes Matthew seem like He-Man in comparison.

[DRW50]

JWS seems to be attempting some sort of weird Cawfee Tawk accent, either that or he's Ted Kennedy reincarnated.

[TeamEric]

That was NOT remotely a Boston accent.

[TeamEric]

Roscoe sold a more menacing Mitch in the first part of last year's story but by February he was a campy, (forgive the cliche) gay old villain hamming it up big time onscreen. I enjoyed Roscoe b/c he embraced the character's craziness with open arms and ran with it. That's how I feel about JWS he was going for flat out low class NUTCASE high as a kite most of the time. Eddie was popping pills like candy so I am sure we'll find they were some form of speed which had his engine revved all the time.

[Scotty]

No, it looks more like a Whocares?