Is this the first time in GH's history that it's in last place in Viewers?

The return has made her an irrelevant actress with a sagging career.

True but one with a hell of a paycheck.

I never understood the whole Pratt firing other than rumors that the cast was not happy with what he was doing and they had limited access to him to discuss storylines. But what he was doing as awful as it might have been did at least have a short term positive impact on ratings. It's likely they wouldn't have held but Pratt is the master of big stunts and event so maybe a disaster every 6 months would have kept AMC more afloat ratingswise than what they've been doing.

What's disappointing is the fact that no one wants to risk alienating any of the remaining viewers by making a courageous writing choice, hiring a new young talent, that could take the shows in a new direction. They just seem content to wait out the end of this generation of the genre. I guess that's the safest approach in today's television climate. There aren't shows getting 20-30 million viewers in primetime anymore(aside from big sporting events)there are too many other options and daytime suffers from the same thing. My my biggest complaint is how dated the storytelling is on soaps today and how they continue to rely on what they consider soap staples, many of which are no longer relevant in 2010. Personally I am actually looking forward to what comes next. Some of the websoap stuff hasn't been too bad. I don't know if that's the future but it is something different.

American Idol, Dancing with Stars and NCIS still get over 20 million viewers.

True but one with a hell of a paycheck.

Which will melt soon if the current state of affairs remains.

Glad to see GH dead last. Brendugh and the unnecessary extension to this Robin/Patrick/Lisa story have ruined the show for me.

The return has made her an irrelevant actress with a sagging career.

Ouch! Yet thats kinda true

What sucks is that about 75% of the show is currently built around Brenda. The only stories she isnt a major player in are the Luke/Tracy engagement and the Robin/Patrick/Lisa triangle. Aside from those, she is at the center of everythign and everyone. If people arent praising her, they are talking about her. All the men want her and the women are jealous of her. Its overkill and unnecesary especially since her story is so damn boring. Its the SAME story we've been seeing for the last decade on GH, with random mob influence coming to PC to make trouble for Sonny and Jason. She's just used as a front from this but dont get it twisted, this Balkan crap seems just like the stuff we've had before with Sorel, Alcazar, Manny, Zacharra and the other countless mob bosses

Edited November 30, 201015 yr by Cheap21

This just made my day as all three soaps deserve their renewals. This is good to know there’s a possibility that all six soaps will remain on the air through at least fall 2013. With ABC/Disney owning all three of their soaps there’s no way their going to cancel them especially with their efforts of trying to save OLTL and AMC the last couple of years.

This told me a whole lot that P&G didn’t do a thing to try and save their soaps. ATWT & GL would still be airing today if it wasn’t for P&G’s I want out of the soap business attitude.

Only question I have is there room for B&B to be an hour soap although I prefer the half-hour due to DVR space? Is there also room for any new soaps on any of the networks. I think one of the three networks specifically NBC needs to create a new soap to spark new needed energy into the lineup. I hate seeing DAYS out there alone all the time.

True but one with a hell of a paycheck.

And good on her for fleecing as much cash as she can from ABC.

Edited November 30, 201015 yr by Ann_SS

I can't believe everyone was calling OLTL's cancellation this year and it is number 1 ABC soap in viewers LMFAO. OLTL is showing signs of survival and also considering it's ABC most profitable soap. OLTL was underbudget three years in a row and GH/AMC are grossly overbudget. Vanessa's return worked so well back in 2002 because her return was very impactful. The setup was great for Brenda's return which brought big ratings all the way through. This go around the magic is gone and I think alot of it has to do with Vanessa was gone only 4 years last go around and this time it was almost 8. Plus the return has been so badly written. GH IMO NEEDS WENDY RICHE back at the helm. I would kill anything to get Wendy back to Port Charles where she so belongs. Also on the AMC front we can all blame Donna/David but when does JHC GET SOME FREAKING BLAME. This is this woman's fourth writing team and its failing. This woman has absolutely NO VISION WHATSOEVER. That's the problem because if u have been here as long as u have and four writing teams have failed under u, it shows its more then the writing team. AMC is in DESPERATE NEED OF A NEW EXECUTIVE PRODUCER WHO WANTS TO PROVIDE A VISION FOR PINE VALLEY AND ELEVATE THEIR WRITING TEAM. So IMO you could have great writers come in and still it wouldn't go to the top without someone to really want to push the show up. The show needs a leader not some PUSHOVER.

I know right, you have to be very naive to think that ABC was cancel any of their soaps anytime soon. People panicked over GL & ATWT getting canceled and thought OLTL was next but the thing they forgot is the situations were a lot different. GL & ATWT were handled by a company that wanted out of the soap business and with the economy the way it was they couldn't hold onto it for anymore years. OLTL was saved by ABC/Disney with being way under budgeted in expensive New York City. It looks like OLTL due to their #1 status will be around for sure through their 2014 commitment.

For those of you calling an AMC cancellation don't be that naive. AMC's budget is cheaper than it was a year ago before they moved to LA hence why they made the move. Its more affordable then it used to be. If ABC isn't going to cancel OLTL then do you really expect them to actually cut AMC before OLTL? You guys know how it goes first its their baby GH then AMC then OLTL. I'm pretty sure the AMC situation is being looked at right now and will be fixed within the next couple of years and then people are going to start praising it like they've done with OLTL lately.

And good on her for fleecing as much cash as she can from ABC.

Milking money is good and clever when it's sustainable. Seeing she did nothing and even made viewers tune out, I'm sure it won't reflect well on her next paycheck.

Milking money is good and clever when it's sustainable. Seeing she did nothing and even made viewers tune out, I'm sure it won't reflect well on her next paycheck.

Hardly. Even if she is the sole reason for the tuneout - and I find that doubtful - Frons will never blame her for it just like he'll never admit that Rylee is killing AMC. Somebody else will take the fall.

Hardly. Even if she is the sole reason for the tuneout - and I find that doubtful - Frons will never blame her for it just like he'll never admit that Rylee is killing AMC. Somebody else will take the fall.

<span style="font-size:105%;">She is the reason not because it's Brenda/Vanessa per se, she should've made them tune in, in fact, it's the horrid, repetitive stories that are annoying the sh!t out of viewers and eating the show together with her annoying squirrel presence and annoying voice. I seriously doubt people are dumb to pay her as much as they did now that the circumstances have changed and all the enthusiasm has melted, just like her plastic face.

Vanessa Marcil, though, will probably decide to leave after her contract is up. Then again, a melt-face 40-year old actress, whose biggest credits are some woman on a daytime drama in the '90s, the embarrassing Beverly Hills, 90210 gig and an even more embarrassing deep sh!t that was Las Vegas might have nowhere to return to thus deciding to crash her already nonexistent career into a tree staying in Port Charles.</span>

Edited November 30, 201015 yr by Sylph

Vanessa's last return to GH might have annoyed a lot of people but it was half enjoyable and a ratings success. And she won an emmy. I don't think Vanessa will be destitute after this but I do believe her value is going to be diminished. To what extent I have no idea. I never tuned back into watch her and I'm glad. I'll remember Brenda as I last saw her on GH.

can we finally do somethign about TIIC? Its obvious that GH is creatively bankrupt and insists on the same tired old tricks

can we finally do somethign about TIIC? Its obvious that GH is creatively bankrupt and insists on the same tired old tricks

After what the writers of this show have been allowed to do you'd think they'd want to inject some creativity and new blood to bring some fresh ideas on board. I watched them kill off and write off a bunch of beloved characters with no lasting impact, ruin the returns of several fan favorites with poor planning and storytelling, and now Vanessa? There is no way anyone can even pretend anymore that it's the actors involved or anything else. But they will just ride this out and continue on. I really don't think the powers at ABC Daytime see any need to make changes considering in 5 years many of these shows will likely be gone or on their way out.