34 minutes ago, j swift said:

Jill had particularly bad luck when choosing friends because David and Sven also turned into psychopathic killers.  It is no wonder she's got trust issues.

Who was the handsome divorce attorney she befriended after her breakup with John?  I think she took him to the costume gala? - not Mitchel Sherman, he worked for Kay

Michael Crawford. 

I am watching all of the german ones so I see michael in them a lot .XD

When was the show on in France, between which years ?

3 hours ago, blueberrywaffle said:

When was the show on in France, between which years ?

Y&R has been broadcast in France since 1989, they started w/ 1986 episodes. 

France current episodes are from Summer 2019 according to "Les Feux de l'Amour" in France: Summary of episodes broadcast on TF1, actors, characters, news of the series... - Soap-Passion.com

 

 

9 hours ago, ltm1997 said:

Jumping into the conversation of Nikki and Jill, do you all think there ever could’ve been a way of writing the show back during MTS’s first year that Nikki and Jill could’ve become chums?? I know you all said they’re both way different, but I’ve always wondered what it would’ve been like if they were both at the Allegro one night, Jill down about her marriage to Stu and not knowing where she stands with Derek, and Nikki down about killing her father or they could’ve written something else she was bummed about, and then they bring the two together through some dialogue to form some kind of bond and they maybe have a short-lived friendship? I wonder how Brenda and Melody’s chemistry would’ve been and how the characters would’ve played it out with each other, especially during 1979. 

 

Maybe Bill Bell could’ve written that Jill helps Nikki where Greg is concerned and Jill coaches Nikki on how to win him over and get in his good graces. Then, to repay Jill, Nikki coaches Jill on how to win Derek over in more of a slutty, seductive way that Jill hasn’t considered yet and to try and beat Suzanne at her own game.

 

Sorry if this sounds stupid, I just wondered about it haha. 

Not stupid at all.

I think one reason that Bill didn't go there was there was simply not enough time in a tightly focused 30 min show to pursue all those plot possibilities.

He was also wise enough to keep things simple as too much crossover meant stuff got complicated and unwieldy to write.

Look at today's show where relationships are ignored because there is so much crossover.

Weren't Abby and Lily besties at one point? You'd never know from watching now.

I honestly feel Jill would never have liked Nikki, tolerated and been nice to her, but that's all. She may have thought she was okay enough to marry Greg, but I just don't see them being friends. Jill may have been poor, but she believed she was rich and cultured. She aspired to it. I think she would have seen Nikki as a little beneath her. I actually think it made sense for Jill in 1979 to really never even try to be friends with Nikki.

A scene here or there, maybe. Brenda had chemistry with everyone, so I think both women would have made it work if they had to, but character wise I don't see it happening. 

 

12 hours ago, kalbir said:

Y&R has been broadcast in France since 1989, they started w/ 1986 episodes. 

France current episodes are from Summer 2019 according to "Les Feux de l'Amour" in France: Summary of episodes broadcast on TF1, actors, characters, news of the series... - Soap-Passion.com

 

 

They started with the same episode 3263 from January 1986 like they did in Germany

6 hours ago, will81 said:

I honestly feel Jill would never have liked Nikki, tolerated and been nice to her, but that's all. She may have thought she was okay enough to marry Greg, but I just don't see them being friends. Jill may have been poor, but she believed she was rich and cultured. She aspired to it. I think she would have seen Nikki as a little beneath her. I actually think it made sense for Jill in 1979 to really never even try to be friends with Nikki.

A scene here or there, maybe. Brenda had chemistry with everyone, so I think both women would have made it work if they had to, but character wise I don't see it happening.

Agree.  Like I said upthread, Jill strikes me as the type who wouldn't make friends with other women, at least not easily.  She'd have more of a kooky sidekick, like Erica had Opal, or DAYS' Anna had Calliope.

Edited April 4, 20223 yr by Khan

Does anyone have 1988 and 1989 French episodes to watch ?

6 hours ago, Khan said:

Agree.  Like I said upthread, Jill strikes me as the type who wouldn't make friends with other women, at least not easily.  She'd have more of a kooky sidekick, like Erica had Opal, or DAYS' Anna had Calliope.

True. I guess it says a lot that the closest woman friend she ever had was her mother.

On 4/3/2022 at 9:11 AM, ltm1997 said:

Jumping into the conversation of Nikki and Jill, do you all think there ever could’ve been a way of writing the show back during MTS’s first year that Nikki and Jill could’ve become chums?? I know you all said they’re both way different, but I’ve always wondered what it would’ve been like if they were both at the Allegro one night, Jill down about her marriage to Stu and not knowing where she stands with Derek, and Nikki down about killing her father or they could’ve written something else she was bummed about, and then they bring the two together through some dialogue to form some kind of bond and they maybe have a short-lived friendship? I wonder how Brenda and Melody’s chemistry would’ve been and how the characters would’ve played it out with each other, especially during 1979. 

 

Maybe Bill Bell could’ve written that Jill helps Nikki where Greg is concerned and Jill coaches Nikki on how to win him over and get in his good graces. Then, to repay Jill, Nikki coaches Jill on how to win Derek over in more of a slutty, seductive way that Jill hasn’t considered yet and to try and beat Suzanne at her own game.

 

Sorry if this sounds stupid, I just wondered about it haha. 

Aside from Paul, Nikki's "friends" were always mainly people she felt could propel her into the spotlight, and Jill's "friends" were mainly people who could provide her with financial security.  A friendship with Jill wouldn't have benefited Nikki's goals for stardom, and a friendship with Nikki wouldn't have furthered Jill's goals for a big house and a maid.  So they'd have just been wasting time with each other, lol.  

 

Oh how I have been waiting for someone to repost this clip back on YT. I hope the same poster posts the fallout. I remember this being on WOST and was one of the first classic soap episodes I watched when joining that site. Those were the days...

3 hours ago, Broderick said:

Aside from Paul, Nikki's "friends" were always mainly people she felt could propel her into the spotlight, and Jill's "friends" were mainly people who could provide her with financial security.  A friendship with Jill wouldn't have benefited Nikki's goals for stardom, and a friendship with Nikki wouldn't have furthered Jill's goals for a big house and a maid.  So they'd have just been wasting time with each other, lol.  

I will say, it seems odd if Jill didn't confront Nikki during the whole Walter Addison story. Especially when Liz got shot. Maybe there was a small interaction, but as far as I can tell I don't think there was. I know Deb Adair was in the role by that point, so maybe Bill was re-establishing Jill in her new Abbott sphere. I believe Terry Lester's first scenes involved Jack rushing Jill to the hospital (which I understand where some of Deborah's first scenes as well). Still it would have been great to have had something between them while Nikki was married to Greg. 

I also found it odd that Brenda's Jill refers to Nikki as a former stripper when she is about to go to her wedding to Victor, almost like she had never known of her before. Despite the fact Nikki was her sister-in-law. Though from a character perspective, I guess it doesn't surprise me too much. 

Jill must have been at Greg's wedding to Nikki and surely has some interaction.

Bill must have kept it at a minimum.

23 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Jill must have been at Greg's wedding to Nikki and surely has some interaction.

Bill must have kept it at a minimum.

I think so. In one set of synopsis Jill pushes Stu to let them have the wedding at the Brooks home, in other synopsis it is Chris that requests this. 

I assume she was there though. If it was relatively small, they must have had some interaction. 

It does seem he kept it minor. Considering by 1984 Jill seems to have forgotten who Nikki is, haha. 

42 minutes ago, will81 said:

I also found it odd that Brenda's Jill refers to Nikki as a former stripper

I kind of took that line as Jill being snooty. Like Nikki was still taking off her clothes when she met Victor, and Jill was already working in an establish company like Jabot when she started seeing John. 

14 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

I kind of took that line as Jill being snooty. Like Nikki was still taking off her clothes when she met Victor, and Jill was already working in an establish company like Jabot when she started seeing John. 

Yeah true. I think Brenda just performs it like she has no idea who Nikki is - either she is playing Jill like she forgot they were in-laws, or playing her like she is distancing herself "I don't know her" Lol.