Do you know if there was any issue at Y&R with Melody having a child without being married to the father? There's an article in '82 where she models fashions for pregnant women and talks about why she wasn't marrying her child's father (Carlos, can't remember his last name). I was a little surprised SOD was discussing this, especially since the Bell soaps seemed to be conservative in view.

Didn't her boyfriend pass away later on?

You have to wonder who they thought they'd replace them with.

That's the thing.

Between Smith, Latham & Maria/Hogan so much damage has been done it's near impossible to replace ANY character without doing YEARS of damage first.

Imagine if Braeden had left and Bloom's choice Stephen Nichols had become the new male lead. If his work on Y&R so far is any indication, yikes.

Exactly.

I guess wanting new talent to replace old is also why people like Maura West were hired, yet if rumor is true, MAB railroaded her out and gave Diane a disgusting time, all with Sony letting it happen.

Maura was stunt cast.

The horrible treatment during her Y&R stint was a given (especially since they didn't want her in any real capacity beyond a temporary ratings boost)

I just have no idea who cares about this show. It's sad to think this show was such a profit-maker and a force for CBS and so many different people are happy to let it die.

It's been that way for YEARS.

NOBODY cared about Y&R outside of its own longtime fans & the only reason so many "care" about the show now is because it will likely be the last soap standing.

For YEARS Y&R had a quality show with quality actors now it's being driven into the ground with unnecessary stunt casts, quick fixes, constant backstage drama, inane retcons, terrible writing & lazy production.

Yes. He was a makeup artist.

Do you know if there was any issue at Y&R with Melody having a child without being married to the father?

Nope.

(Carlos, can't remember his last name)

Yeaggy.

Thanks.

I've wondered, exactly what role did Bloom even play at Y&R? All I know is the Nichols bit. Clearly she had no problem letting various teams gut the show. Did she ever do anything? Was the LML firing her decision?

I'm kind of surprised they even got rid of LML since they don't seem to care about the show at all, unless it was some kind of huge personal issue. I know a few of the Knots Landing actors weren't fond of her.

You know what i also find interesting. How close Jeanne is to her two leading gal pals Jess and Melody. Jeanne and Jess as we know have this bff thing going on off camera, but its not the same with her and Melody. I'm not saying those two don't get along cause they do, i'm just saying its interesting how Jeanne and melody never formed the same closeness that her and Jess did ( even though i think its because of their drug history)

Did she ever do anything?

A lot.

She was very hands on including casting (TED SHACKELFORD) & rewriting scripts.

Was the LML firing her decision?

LML firing was Sony & The Bells.

I'm kind of surprised they even got rid of LML since they don't seem to care about the show at all, unless it was some kind of huge personal issue. I know a few of the Knots Landing actors weren't fond of her.

Falling ratings is really what got LML fired.

The creative blackhole Y&R became during her tenure, almost total dissatisfaction from the actors & major Bell disapproval were just the proverbial icing on the cake.

You know what i also find interesting. How close Jeanne is to her two leading gal pals Jess and Melody. Jeanne and Jess as we know have this bff thing going on off camera, but its not the same with her and Melody. I'm not saying those two don't get along cause they do, i'm just saying its interesting how Jeanne and melody never formed the same closeness that her and Jess did ( even though i think its because of their drug history)

MTS & Jeanne may not be best friends like Jeanne & Jess but they have MUCH respect for each other.

And again EVERYBODY loves Jeanne.

So if Maria weren't a Bell, do you think she would have been gone by now?

Falling ratings is really what got LML fired.

The creative blackhole Y&R became during her tenure, almost total dissatisfaction from the actors & major Bell disapproval were just the proverbial icing on the cake.

So they don't care too much about any of this now since a Bell is in charge? I wonder if Sony cares. I know many believe Sony is like ABC or P&G and wants out.

I'd forgotten about that Shackleford thing. Do you know what stories she rewrote?

The Tammin thing was Sony right?

So if Maria weren't a Bell, do you think she would have been gone by now?

Definitely.

So they don't care too much about any of this now since a Bell is in charge?

They care but again in this economy none of them are gonna risk it.

I wonder if Sony cares.

Sony definitely cares. They weren't amused by the falling ratings at all.

The Tammin thing was Sony right?

Yep.

If the ratings keep falling is Sony going to do anything?

Then again I don't even know what their idea of a solution would be. Is Catherine Bell available?

1983 credits at about 5:10. Who is the woman on the top left?