On 4/7/2017 at 9:29 AM, SoapDope said:

I know. There is all kinds of General Hospital etc....around. Someone had to be taping Y&R in that era too.

 

People have indeed uploaded vintage Y&R to youtube, but for some reason, as soon as any material from the 1970s pops up, it gets tagged for copyright infringement and deleted. We see more scenes and eps from later decades than we do of the show's very best years: the 1970s.  I don't understand this.

24 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:

 

People have indeed uploaded vintage Y&R to youtube, but for some reason, as soon as any material from the 1970s pops up, it gets tagged for copyright infringement and deleted. We see more scenes and eps from later decades than we do of the show's very best years: the 1970s.  I don't understand this.

 

Why? Ugh. Someone must have nothing better to do. They need to upload them to dailymotion or title them in a way that they aren't easily found.

30 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:

People have indeed uploaded vintage Y&R to youtube, but for some reason, as soon as any material from the 1970s pops up, it gets tagged for copyright infringement and deleted. We see more scenes and eps from later decades than we do of the show's very best years: the 1970s.  I don't understand this.

 

6 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

Why? Ugh. Someone must have nothing better to do. They need to upload them to dailymotion or title them in a way that they aren't easily found.

 

Y&R (and B&B) are especially targeted, and unfortunately it isn't limited to the 1970s episodes (although it certainly seems worse for those years since the material from that era is much more limited than later decades). It wasn't that long ago that I finished being on some six month probation or something like that from YouTube for a private, well-hidden Y&R episode I posted nearly a decade ago. And I certainly can't hold on to any B&B episode I've ever posted. I don't want to risk losing that channel for many reasons, including sentimental ones, so... It gets really annoying having to reupload stuff, which is why I appreciate the effort by those who do. I know exactly what it's like having those videos get taken down.

1 minute ago, YRBB said:

 

 

Y&R (and B&B) are especially targeted, and unfortunately it isn't limited to the 1970s episodes (although it certainly seems worse for those years since the material from that era is much more limited than later decades). It wasn't that long ago that I finished being on some six month probation or something like that from YouTube for a private, well-hidden Y&R episode I posted nearly a decade ago. And I certainly can't hold on to any B&B episode I've ever posted. I don't want to risk losing that channel for many reasons, including sentimental ones, so... It gets really annoying having to reupload stuff, which is why I appreciate the effort by those who do. I know exactly what it's like having those videos get taken down.

 

There are many soaps available on youtube, spanning several decades, and apparently their copyright owners don't care too much. God only knows why Y&R and B&B material is targeted for deletion so relentlessly. I agree that even the more "recent" stuff gets taken down too, but episodes from the early years comes and goes in the blink of an eye, no matter how well they are hidden or uploaded with obscure titles. Even uploading "private" videos doesn't keep them safe forever.

 

What was the Y&R video that got you into hot water? 

1 hour ago, vetsoapfan said:

 

There are many soaps available on youtube, spanning several decades, and apparently their copyright owners don't care too much. God only knows why Y&R and B&B material is targeted for deletion so relentlessly. I agree that even the more "recent" stuff gets taken down too, but episodes from the early years comes and goes in the blink of an eye, no matter how well they are hidden or uploaded with obscure titles. Even uploading "private" videos doesn't keep them safe forever.

 

What was the Y&R video that got you into hot water? 

Who knows why SONY/CBS does this crap..... I'm glad I'm able to keep all my uploads unlisted since my first channel became terminated, but I still wish I could make my videos public...it's just not fair....I really am starting to believe all the jokes that they don't like people watching any classics because they want them to like the current stuff.

There are actually almost consecutive episodes of B&B 1989-1991 uploaded, but it's dubbed over in Polish...or you can hear the English voices, but this monotone polish voiceover is thrown over top of the voices, so it's not the greatest, but still, since hardly any early B&B really services this is the closest we have! 

I still wish I had watched or even saved all of those Y&R German dubbed 86-87 episodes way back.....again I can't understand any of it, but that was the only time consecutive episodes of those 2 years were posted....I think they also had some of 1988, and late 1995 too.

Edited April 8, 20178 yr by YRfan23

I get the feeling it's Sony who's all over it ... but who knows?

It is Sony since they are all about copyrights and making money off everything they own. 

But Sony is not involved in B&B.

On 4/8/2017 at 2:06 PM, vetsoapfan said:

 

Even uploading "private" videos doesn't keep them safe forever.

 

What was the Y&R video that got you into hot water? 

 

Some Christmas 2002 episodes, and a 1995 episode for B&B. I think it's the music in those instances because they featured both Christmas music and JT singing and that's how they found them despite being private. I guess whatever they use to find the music doesn't care if it's a private video. SONY also took down a DOOL I had posted but then, later, released the copyright claim. Go figure.

I think it's music more often than not that causes videos to get deleted. I've seen clips that were muted because of songs used in the background of the scene.

On April 9, 2017 at 10:18 AM, KMan101 said:

I get the feeling it's Sony who's all over it ... but who knows?

 

5 hours ago, SoapDope said:

It is Sony since they are all about copyrights and making money off everything they own. 

 

If SONY were smart, then they would launch a subscription service that allows online users to watch old episodes of Y&R and DAYS.  But, as someone suggested upthread, doing so would remind folks that today's soaps are abysmal.

10 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

 

If SONY were smart, then they would launch a subscription service that allows online users to watch old episodes of Y&R and DAYS.  But, as someone suggested upthread, doing so would remind folks that today's soaps are abysmal.

That would be a start but I'd rather get the DVD releases like the other soaps did....ie...B&B, ATWT and GL.

3 hours ago, kalbir said:

I think it's music more often than not that causes videos to get deleted. I've seen clips that were muted because of songs used in the background of the scene.

 

I think so too, partly

2 hours ago, Khan said:

 

 

If SONY were smart, then they would launch a subscription service that allows online users to watch old episodes of Y&R and DAYS.  But, as someone suggested upthread, doing so would remind folks that today's soaps are abysmal.

 

Or just rerun them on Pop ... sigh

 

They (and Procter and Gamble and ABC) are leaving money on the table. I guess maybe the end result wouldn't be worth converting or whatever they have to do, but still ... it feels like they're missing out.

 

I mean, even just putting up their own youtube site? Or on their websites? I'm sure many would even pay a small fee for monthly access.

Edited April 10, 20178 yr by KMan101

Music rights are very difficult to negotiate. It took years before WKRP in Cincinnati had a proper release.

 

Then you also have the consider proper compensation for everyone involved with the show. B&B seems to have figured something out with their (foreign only?) DVD releases, but I doubt that soap contracts had many lines about rebroadcast. SoapNet probably forced some changes.

 

I think the greatest possibility is a streaming service, but whether it's worth the time and energy for compensation, plus the hassle of distribution as compared to the amount of subscribers it would actually get remains to be seen. I would imagine that most if not all the remaining soaps have investigated it to some extent.

Right now, I'd settle for soap mags to be digitized.

37 minutes ago, Titus Andronicus said:

 

 

Then you also have the consider proper compensation for everyone involved with the show. B&B seems to have figured something out with their (foreign only?) DVD releases, but I doubt that soap contracts had many lines about rebroadcast. SoapNet probably forced some changes.

 

 

Nope...they had 2 US releases.

 

 

 

 

I did notice that there is a lot of foreign releases. I wish those had been released in the US too.

Edited April 11, 20178 yr by Soapsuds