He came across as angry black man because he really isn't much more than that. The writing for this particular character has been atrocious, practically non-existent. So now after a year we meet this magically from nowhere girl he likes and then she is dead 10 minutes later and he is angry. But so what? What can I possibly feel for Tyrese? Have I watched him star in stories? He is a total blank slate and I am not sure how his emotional attachment to this woman whose face I already forgot (and name) is more compelling than those two girls missing their dad.

In contrast, Carol got her shining hour here. She never really had a story but she played support all this time holding the baby or watching her kid die, and now we see how it has all changed her into the toughest one of all, afraid of nothing. She all of a sudden became a fascinating character and she didn't need to scream, she just needed her eyes. Michonne has gotten much better writing this year too, and even Herschel is trying to be something more than a living fortune cookie spouting wisdom. We even see the blonde girl (I forget her name) starting to show a little personality after two years. But Tyrese? "you bring them to ME!"...is that supposed to mean something? Was that dramatic? He is a bad character on the page, or maybe he was a good character played by a bad actor I have no idea. He came on roughly the same time a Michonne and she has blossomed where he has done nothing. I don't know how this character can have a single fan, already in one episode the creepy little blonde girl has more going on.

I will say the fact he battled 100 walkers and survived is a good beginning in fleshing him out, but it takes actions and scenes over time to make these characters work. His speeches mean nothing.

Thank you. Throughout the episode my boyfriend and I kept talking about how he completely slipped into "angry black man" mode.

I felt that way too, and then I saw posts about this being a stereotype, or someone saying he is angry all the time (which I don't see). I felt like most of what happened made sense for the character. I just wish they'd had more time to show his relationship with Karen.

I thought that Chad Coleman did an outstanding job portraying Tyreese's grief, but I agree his relationship with Karen should been developed more. Regarding the "angry black man" label for Tyreese, I think it is just another lazy racial stereotype that some people throw around.

I don't even understand why Carol killed David and Karen. They were locked in those cells so the group wasn't in danger. Is she so stupid that she thought she could stop the virus from spreading by kililng them? So is her plan to kill everyone who is infected and not give the healthier people a chance to survive? It is a very Shane thing to do. I now hope that her end is nder.

I agree with Ann. Angry black man is a cop out for Tyrese because he's been nothing but a big Teddy Bear. At first I thought Ty was overreacting to Karen's death, but I don't think so anymore. Ty does not like the fighting or killing even if they are Zombies. He will step up if need be but there's always a bit of reluctance. He will stay behind and protect the women and children, but make no mistake, he will fight. He is not a leader and is super sensitive. Outside of Sasha, this is the first chance Ty has had to feel something for another human being and all hope is not lost. Out of all of them, I think the apocalypse has hit Ty the hardest. His despair is not like the others, and we've always been given hints that Sasha was always the strongest of the two. Not that he would not break someone in two if they harmed her, but she looks like the one to always step to the front of the line when the time came fight.

Ty's anger is more than Karen. He's afraid of losing hope again.

I think when a black man has a legitimate reason to be angry, he should get to play that whatever stereotypes may exist. I mean, it's not like TY is pissed for the hell of it. Carol killed his GF.

Personally, I get where Carol is coming from. These people are living in the end times. I can see where she decided to make the call to try to stop the contagion, even if she didn't have the right. Hell, I can even see how she thought she did have the right. I think she and Hershel are toast this season though. Carol has stepped into Shane land, even if her intentions are much more honorable.

I don't even understand why Carol killed David and Karen. They were locked in those cells so the group wasn't in danger. Is she so stupid that she thought she could stop the virus from spreading by kililng them? So is her plan to kill everyone who is infected and not give the healthier people a chance to survive? It is a very Shane thing to do. I now hope that her end is nder.

I do think she thought she could stop the contagion with those two. It was obviously far too late. I don't think she's going to try to do it again, she probably thought those two were going to die anyway and she might be able to stop the spread. A desperate act doomed to fail and I do think she will die or be shunned for it. It's too bad, she was just getting really interesting.

Edited October 28, 201312 yr by Juliajms

I never thought when I first started watching this show, that I would actually grow to find Carol interesting. I'm actually excited to see where her story is headed though we all know she's clearly not long for this world.

Tyrese would fall into the Angry Black Man stereotype if that was all they'd shown of him. But it's not. Before this episode he'd barely raised his voice. You can be angry and black without falling into that stereotype.

I can't get over how bad Andrew Lincoln is when he has to act angry or sad, or how his accent slips when he has to raise his voice.

I was so happy that they didn't kill Dr. S and Sasha this episode, I don't think I could handle two minor minority characters dying in the space of an hour. And I KNOW I won't be able to handle it if Glenn dies. His hair is too pretty.

I'm so for Carol killing those who endanger her group. When the Governor comes back I want her to just pop and shoot in the mofo in the head. So what, who cares?

I'm all for Michonne and Daryl. I'm for Michonne and anyone. She's such a sharp contrast to most characters on television that her interactions with anyone feel fresh.

They have done wonders this season with Michonne and her relationships with the rest of the gang.

They have done wonders this season with Michonne and her relationships with the rest of the gang.

When she went in and got that picture of Laurie for Carl that changed everything for her character. I think that's when she opened her heart to becoming part of the group and Carl did the same for her.

Edited October 28, 201312 yr by Juliajms

I agree with Ann. Angry black man is a cop out for Tyrese because he's been nothing but a big Teddy Bear. At first I thought Ty was overreacting to Karen's death, but I don't think so anymore. Ty does not like the fighting or killing even if they are Zombies. He will step up if need be but there's always a bit of reluctance. He will stay behind and protect the women and children, but make no mistake, he will fight. He is not a leader and is super sensitive. Outside of Sasha, this is the first chance Ty has had to feel something for another human being and all hope is not lost. Out of all of them, I think the apocalypse has hit Ty the hardest. His despair is not like the others, and we've always been given hints that Sasha was always the strongest of the two. Not that he would not break someone in two if they harmed her, but she looks like the one to always step to the front of the line when the time came fight.

Ty's anger is more than Karen. He's afraid of losing hope again.

I just don't know what episode you got all that from, honestly. I had no idea his sister was tougher than he is, or that he was super sensitive. Last year he didn't want to help anyone kill anybody but there was no motivation given other than "we should mind our own business"--which is a legitimate enough reason to sit out a battle between humans. He only came alive for me in the scene where he was being surrounded by walkers and had to do a Hulk Hogan and hulk himself up to get out there and fight and that he managed to fight off 100 walkers and make it back to the other. The fight with Rick was just silly.

Edited October 28, 201312 yr by quartermainefan

I just don't know what episode you got all that from, honestly. I had no idea his sister was tougher than he is, or that he was super sensitive. Last year he didn't want to help anyone kill anybody but there was no motivation given other than "we should mind our own business"--which is a legitimate enough reason to sit out a battle between humans. He only came alive for me in the scene where he was being surrounded by walkers and had to do a Hulk Hogan and hulk himself up to get out there and fight and that he managed to fight off 100 walkers and make it back to the other. The fight with Rick was just silly.

A few episodes ago they showed us that he didn't like to kill the Walkers at the gate. I agree that they haven't shown us enough of Ty, but I did feel for him and Sasha when they were turned away from the prison last season. Rick was out of his mind, but it just felt so wrong for him to turn decent people out, when it was practically a death sentence.

I just don't know what episode you got all that from, honestly. I had no idea his sister was tougher than he is, or that he was super sensitive. Last year he didn't want to help anyone kill anybody but there was no motivation given other than "we should mind our own business"--which is a legitimate enough reason to sit out a battle between humans. He only came alive for me in the scene where he was being surrounded by walkers and had to do a Hulk Hogan and hulk himself up to get out there and fight and that he managed to fight off 100 walkers and make it back to the other. The fight with Rick was just silly.

They toss out little teasers, and for me, that really tells a lot. Ty is not handling this well, but his sister is much tougher at this sort of thing. Tyreese fights when he has to, and only then.

The key demo dipped a bit to 6.8, the show continues to get outstanding ratings.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/10/28/the-walking-dead-garners-a-6-8-adults-18-49-rating-12-9-million-total-viewers/211851/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-season-4-spoilers-651084

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/walking-dead-season-4-spoilers-650661

Spoilers.