1 minute ago, carolineg said:

Yikes!  I know TP is pretty outspoken, but that's rough lol.  

IKR?  He's basically saying Philece was a messy b***h.

10 minutes ago, Khan said:

IKR?  He's basically saying Philece was a messy b***h.

Yes, he is.  Sometimes I think TP is a little bit of a messy b**ch but his co workers seem to like him lol.  Anyhow, very interesting.  It's hard to find much about PS's personal life, so maybe she was young and going through something.  

12 minutes ago, JAS0N47 said:

EPISODE # 1420...DON CRAIG'S DEBUT...
 
"Days" fans just heard Anna last week mention Don Craig's last scene (when he went to send some mail and was never heard from again). For the first time since its original airing, here's a look at Don Craig's debut episode, # 1420, which aired June 21, 1971:
 
PROLOGUE: INT. DON CRAIG'S OFFICE
 
(TO OFFICE DOOR, LETTERED "DONALD CRAIG, ATTORNEY-AT-LAW" BRING JULIE INTO PICTURE LOOKING CALM AND CONFIDENT, SHE ENTERS INTO OUTER OFFICE, IS GREETED BY CRAIG'S SECRETARY)
 
SECRETARY: Hello, Mrs. Banning.
JULIE: Good afternoon, Miss Meadows. I know I'm a little early for my appointment with Mr. Craig.
SECRETARY: Yes, he's busy at the moment. I'm afraid you'll have to wait a few minutes.
JULIE: That's quite all right. It'll give us a chance to talk. It's the last time I'll be seeing you, since we go to court the day after tomorrow.
SECRETARY: Yes, everything seems to be going along just fine.
JULIE: Two more days and I'll be a free woman again. You can't begin to know how I'm looking forward to it. And to a brand new life. (HOLD ON JULIE) (FADE TO BLACK)
 
ACT ONE: INT. HORTON LIVING ROOM (SCENE IN PROGRESS BETWEEN ALICE AND ADDIE)
 
ALICE: Almost a year. You could at least try to find some kind of special life for yourself. Try to have a little fun out of life. And there's one man I know from whom, without getting involved, you could have so much pleasure: Doug Williams.
ADDIE: Please, Mother, I appreciate what you're trying to do, but I'm not interested in dating. And I'm especially not interested in having anything to do with Mr. Williams. That one encounter at Sergio's was quite enough. 
(SOUND: TELEPHONE)
ALICE: Do you want to get that, dear?
(ADDIE GETS IT. TWO WAY CALL, JULIE CALLING FROM SECRETARY'S PHONE) 
ADDIE: Hello.
JULIE (happy, upbeat, playing the game): Hello, Mother. How are you?
ADDIE (guarded, cautious): I'm...fine, Julie.
JULIE: I only have a moment. I wondered if you're going to be there in an hour or so. I thought I'd stop by, spend a little time with you.
ADDIE (instinctively suspicious): Why, yes I'll be here.
JULIE: Good. See you then, Mother. Bye.
(AS JULIE HANGS UP, THE WHEELS TURNING, WE SEE CRAIG IN BACKGROUND)
DON: Mrs. Banning? You can come in now.
(AND AS JULIE TURNS TO ENTER, CUT BACK TO ADDIE, PUZZLED)

ADDIE: Knowing my daughter ,Mother, there has to be a reason. (FADE TO BLACK)
 
ACT TWO: FADE IN: INT. DON CRAIG'S OFFICE (THIS SET CAN BE A SLIGHT REMAKE OF MICKEY'S OFFICE LAYOUT). (SCENE IN PROGRESS)

DON: Well, you seem happy enough today, Mrs. Banning.
JULIE: But then, aren't all women on the eve of their divorce?
DON: No, not at all. Depending on the individual circumstances. Sometimes with a day or two to go, one side or the other backs away from the idea.
JULIE: No way, Mr. Craig.
DON: And your husband?
JULIE: He's as anxious as I am.
DON: Then that closes the door to any possible reconciliation.
JULIE: You mean you were about to open that door?
DON: If I felt there was any hope, yes. It's a thing with me. I find it much more satisfying to save marriages than end them. And as I said, it does happen occassionally. A last minute change of heart.
JULIE: How lovely. I mean that. But really it would be a waste of your time with Scott and me.
DON (not critically): Yes, I'd more or less come to that conclusion.
JULIE: Tell me, what time are we due in court the day after next?
DON: Your case should be heard around ten, maybe a little after. And since it's uncontested, it shouldn't take more than a half hour.
JULIE: In other words, by eleven or so...
DON: It should all be over, except for telling your family of course. Or have you already done that?
JULIE: No, Mr. Craig. And I know it'll come as quite a shock to everyone. But I didn't, and don't, want all sorts of people surrounding me with advice. That's the last thing in the world I want or need right now: family interference. And frankly I think it would be better if more people handled it this way. Kept it a very private matter until it was over. It saves all sorts of emotionalims, strain and stress for everyone.
DON: Except that there are those situations when a family functions to bring about a reconciliation.
JULIE: For a divorce attorney, you certainly use that word a lot: reconciliation. It's not good business, is it?
DON: As I said, it's a thing with me. (BEAT) Tell me, Mrs. Banning, is there anything else you think I should know before we go to court?
JULIE: Anything else? No. I'm sure you know all you have to.
DON (long, steady look at her, then, beat): What about your giving custody of your son to Mr. Banning. Don't you think we should discuss that, too? Or didn't you want me to know about it? (Jason47 Note: Julie's son mentioned in this script is David Banning, Eli's father).
(FADE TO BLACK)

ACT THREE: FADE IN: INT. DON CRAIG'S OFFICE (TAKE IT UP IMMEDIATELY)

JULIE: Whatever arrangements I've made concerning my son is a personal matter between Scott and me, Mr. Craig. (BEAT) And I'm a little upset that Scott discussed this with his attorney. I assume that's where you heard about it.
DON: Then it is true, you did enter into such an arrangement.
JULIE: I'm sure that's difficult for you to understand.
DON: Let's say it's rather unusual.
JULIE: Whar else does a mother do, Mr. Craig, when her son wants desperately to live with his father, when he's convinced his mother doesn't love him, has never loved him? A boy who caused utter pandemonium at school because he ran to his father's office rather than take the school bus home to his mother. I could go on and on.
DON: Is this to be an informal arrangement between you two?
JULIE: I definitely don't want it mentioned in court. As I said, this is something between Scott and me. There's nothing illegal about that, is there? (KNOWING THERE ISN'T)
DON: No. Not at all. (BEAT) Then there's nothing permanent about the arrangement. 
JULIE: It could be. But needn't be. Depending upon my son.
DON: Does your husband understand this.
JULIE: Yes, I assume he does. Although we've never put it in quite those words.
DON: Do you want me to cover it with his attorney?
JULIE: No, Mr. Craig. I'd rather the attorney's didn't get into this.
DON: But you do intend to let Mr. Banning have the boy the day after tomorrow.
JULIE (very subtle hedging): Those are my plans, yes. Unless anything unforeseen should develop, which I have no reason to expect.
DON (beat, then): A word of advice?
JULIE (but not really wanting it): By all means.
DON: Don't either of you ever be guilty of using the child as a pawn. It does happen, Mrs. Banning. Sometimes the emotions are such that you're unaware of its happening. But it's a quick way of bringing the court into it. For the protection and welfare of the child.
JULIE: That's the last thing I want to have happen, Mr. Craig. I've been through that once. Never again.
DON (beat, then referring to her folder): There's just one other matter I want to go over with you. The matter of alimony.
JULIE: I told you I didn't want any.
DON: I'm sure I could get it for you.
JULIE: No, I don't believe in it. I do have certain principles, Mr. Craig.
DON: You have many.
JULIE: I wasn't sure what your opinion might be.
DON (beat): Something very basic. How will you live?
JULIE: I have a small trust my father set up for me when I was a child. And when I'm thirty five I'll come into a rather sizeable inheritance.
DON: A small trust between now and thirty five.
JULIE: Well, I hope to borrow some money from my mother against my share of the inheritance. I'm going to see her after I leave here.
DON: That's the first time I've heard you refer to your mother. I didn't realize she lived in Salem.
JULIE: She didn't until recently. Let's just say my mother and I haven't been very close.
DON: But you're confident she'll lend you the money.
JULIE: No, I'm going to have to court her a little first. I don't plan to ask her until I feel our relationship is on much firmer ground. Which will take a little doing.
DON: But definitely no alimony.
JULIE: Definitely.
DON: And if your mother turns you down? It's going to be quite a while before you're thirty five.
JULIE: Between now and then there's always the chance that some man will take pity and ask me to marry him. But somehow I'll manage to survive. I always have, Mr. Craig. And I always will...
DON (beat as he looks at her): No, that shouldn't be too much of a problem for you after all, should it.
(FADE TO BLACK)

ACT FOUR: INT. HORTON LIVING ROOM (SCENE IN PROGRESS BETWEEN ADDIE AND JULIE)

JULIE: Mother, I have a though. It's a lovely warm day. Why don't we collect Grandma, maybe take a walk, go and have a soda somewhere. My treat.
ADDIE (beat as she looks at Julie for a moment, unable to figure her out and yet unable, too, to find any hidden motivation): It's been, how many years, since we've had a soda together?
JULIE: Too many.
ADDIE (beat): All right. I'll go upstairs and ask your grandmother.
(BUT BEFORE ADDIE STARTS TO LEAVE, SOUND: PHONE RINGS.)
JULIE: I'll go ask Grandma.
(ADDIE PICKS UP PHONE. A ONE WAY CALL FOR NOW).
ADDIE: Hello...Why, yes, she is. (aside) Julie, it's for you.
(JULIE IS SURPRISED, YET WILL TRY TO MASK IT)
JULIE: For me?
(JULIE COMES OVER, TAKES THE PHONE, AS ADDIE WALKS AWAY)
JULIE: Hello?
(NOW INTERCUT DON FROM HIS OFFICE)
DON: Mrs. Banning, this is Don Craig. Can you talk?
JULIE: Why, yes.
DON: You'd mentioned where you were going and, well, it was something you said to my secretary that prompts my call.
JULIE: I really don't know what that could be.
DON: Your having referred to the divorce becoming final the day after tomorrow. It's a small point but important, one I did want to clarify.
JULIE: What is? What point do you mean?
DON: When you're in court this week, what happens is that the Judge will enter an interlocutory decree. Bur there's a three month waiting period before the divorce is final.
(TAKE JULIE TOO UTTERLY STUNNED TO SPEAK. DOUBLE BEAT, THEN)
JULIE (deeply shaken but mustering the strength to speak): Whatever would have given you that idea, Mr. Craig?
DON: Well, I just wanted to be doubly sure you understood. I'll see you the day after tomorrow then. Goodbye, Mrs. Banning.
(TAKE JULIE AS SHE SLOWLY HANGS UP, TOTALLY OVERWHELMED. THEN BRING ALICE DOWN THE STAIRS AND INTO THE LIVING ROOM)
ALICE: Julie, what a lovely thought. I haven't had a soda in I can't remember how long. Your mother will be right down, dear.
(JULIE OF COURSE HAS TO TURN, MUST FORCE A SMILE TO COVER THE MOMENT, AND HOLD ON HER DUPLICITY, HOWEVER LABORED...FADE TO BLACK)

Fascinating as always.

Can anyone explain why Julie was so freaked out about the divorce not being finalized at the hearing?

What were her plans?

43 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Yikes!  I know TP is pretty outspoken, but that's rough lol.  

Agreed. When I read that, I wondered if PS and TP had a relationship like Lina and Don in Singin' in the Rain (i.e. she wanted to be a couple and he wasn't interested).

2 minutes ago, Franko said:

Agreed. When I read that, I wondered if PS and TP had a relationship like Lina and Don in Singin' in the Rain (i.e. she wanted to be a couple and he wasn't interested).

That's immediately what I thought.  Not that they were a couple because I don't TP is into that, but that's just speculation.  It just seems like it was messy with some sort of romantic feelings involved.  But, again, I really can't find much about PS's personal life so it could be an outside messy relationship seeping into her work.

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

Yikes!  I know TP is pretty outspoken, but that's rough lol.  

Still, it may better explain just why Philece Sampler was never asked to return, despite reports saying she had always hoped to.

4 minutes ago, Wendy said:

Still, it may better explain just why Philece Sampler was never asked to return, despite reports saying she had always hoped to.

Perhaps.  But she was literally killed off and that was before anyone was really brought back from the dead on Days.  And it's just TP's word and he was in and out in the 80's as Tony.   If Renee died in the last few years she would have been brought back by Rolf's secret serum.   I have a feeling PS might have pissed more people off or the show just moved in a different direction.  I can't say the show ever needed Renee after she died.  Most of her screen partners were gone or moved on after a few years or so.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

If Renee died in the last few years she would have been brought back by Rolf's secret serum.

More like, brought back by Rolf's serum, brainwashed into believing she was Greta von Amburg, and wearing a Kristen mask.

21 minutes ago, Khan said:

More like, brought back by Rolf's serum, brainwashed into believing she was Greta von Amburg, and wearing a Kristen mask.

Maybe.  I think she might have worn an Anna mask to seduce Tony.  Or can Kristen still seduce Tony?  Was she married to Andre or Tony lol?  I can never keep it straight.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Maybe.  I think she might have worn an Anna mask to seduce Tony.  Or can Kristen still seduce Tony?  Was she married to Andre or Tony lol?  I can never keep it straight.

I think Kristen was married to Andre, but so do not quote me on that, lol.

19 minutes ago, Khan said:

I think Kristen was married to Andre, but so do not quote me on that, lol.

If Kristen married "Tony" in the '90s, then she married Andre. Andre impersonated Tony from the '90s through to the mid-2000s.

On 3/4/2022 at 8:41 PM, Khan said:

BTW, I was NEVER one of the ones who congratulated him.

I can't fault people for still having issues with Jamey. He made a fool of himself many times. I think he's matured a fair amount since the DC years though, so I was willing to wish him well at DAYS and with his own show. He worked hard for that. It's not to my taste but I can't deny he loves soaps. (I have no real aspirations to work in soaps, because I do other things professionally and because I think in their current form they're a dying cell.)

It is true that Jamey has a particular and profound love for glossy '80s primetime soaps (or classic Y&R) which color many of his beliefs and his taste. He called himself on it once long ago, on a podcast, and admitted he had to acknowledge 'the '80s are over' and things weren't working when Carlivati's GH began to fall apart. But I also agreed with him sometimes even when I didn't want to; specifically, when he raged about Genie Francis never receiving enough credit for saving GH when she was a mere child. (This was part of a tantrum about Geary shivving Ron Carlivati, but still, he was right.)

I am both surprised and unsurprised the Renee story was his idea - it sounded exactly like Teen Jessica from OLTL, and I seem to recall Jamey knowing that story was a bomb at the time. If he was the same obnoxious guy as always I'd be a bit harder on him. But woof, the Renee thing - forget it.

Edited March 7, 20223 yr by Vee

Anyone who really loves soaps wouldn't propose and promote a story where someone believes they are another person and make that person a long dead forgotten character.

I'd call Days a fantasy serial, not a soap opera.

 

  

 

 

  

Edited March 7, 20223 yr by victoria foxton

On 3/6/2022 at 3:52 PM, j swift said:

Can someone jog my memory?

I think Alex bought a big house, (maybe from Kellem Chandler?), and got engaged to Renee.  When Renee was murdered she was at Alex's house, because the party was meant to be the announcement of their engagement.  Then, somehow the Dimera's forced Alex out of the house and that became the Dimera Mansion.

Is any of that correct? 

Did anyone live at the Kiriakis House before Victor moved in?

Also, where did Don and Liz live?  And didn't Todd Chandler and Savannah Wilder live with Alex at one point?

All of my classic DOOL knowledge comes from either YouTube or boards like these, but from what I can remember, Kellam Chandler's mansion was purchased by Stefano and Tony, when they came to Salem. Liz lived there with them since she was married to Tony at the time. When Stefano "died" in jail, Renee inherited the place. When Renee was murdered, Alex somehow inherited the house, even though he and Renee weren't married. (maybe there was a pre-nup? lol)

When Stefano came back in 1984  he was the mastermind of a plot, which included blowing up the Salem Concert Hall during a hospital benefit. The bomb was defused by Eugene Bradford, and Stefano and his henchman Petrov tried to escape. Unbeknownst to them, a drunk Alex had stumbled into the back seat of their car, and caused them to plunge over a bridge into the river.

Alex was saved by Abe and the Salem cops, but it was revealed that the Dimera mansion still technically belonged to Stefano since he never died. Alex was basically broke because Stefano had drained him of his inherited millions, so he sold the house to Neil Curtis and Liz Chandler. So it sort of came full circle with Liz owning her father's old place.

 

 

 

Edited March 7, 20223 yr by dolphziggler

I thought Alex had married Renee before she died

43 minutes ago, dolphziggler said:

When Renee was murdered, Alex somehow inherited the house, even though he and Renee weren't married.