It might have been more appealing if TIIC hadn't diluted the gay love story with Dorian's fake gay wedding. Why did they have to have the mayoral race centering on a mass gay wedding instead of just telling a simple love story? Speaking as a gay former viewer, I didn't feel tempted to tune in to watch 2 guys disconnected from the main families fall in love. Now, if this had been one of Viki's relatives falling for one of Dorian's with the fallout out their families' reactions, I wouldn't have missed it!

+1

And I have also stopped watching OLTL.

Why is OLTL getting so much flack for this? At least they did the damn storyline.

It's a shame they are getting fired over JPL and Farah Fath, but in all honestly most of the general audience won't miss them, IMO. I feel that the internet hypes up gay couples too much.

Nuke= OVERRATED

Otalia= OVERRATED

Kish= OVERRATED

I am a gay man myself, so I'm not a homophobe, but I just really don't get the firestorm over this firing.

If anything I'm more pissed about Scott Clifton's firing.

Edited April 6, 201015 yr by Eric83

I'm still hung up on what exactly we will be getting as this manna which is going to show us the greatness of OLTL.

A story where Todd causes Marty to lose her baby yet Todd is the victim is not what I call great.

Why is OLTL getting so much flack for this? At least they did the damn storyline.

I wouldn't be upset if they hadn't repeatedly gone to the press and blamed gays for their ratings losses. That, and smearing the actors involved, mitigates any doing of the story, especially since, frankly, I thought big portions of the story were not well written to begin with.

I wouldn't be upset if they hadn't repeatedly gone to the press and blamed gays for their ratings losses. That, and smearing the actors involved, mitigates any doing of the story, especially since, frankly, I thought big portions of the story were not well written to begin with.

+1

Why is OLTL getting so much flack for this? At least they did the damn storyline.

It's a shame they are getting fired over JPL and Farah Fath, but in all honestly most of the general audience won't miss them, IMO. I feel that the internet hypes up gay couples too much.

Nuke= OVERRATED

Otalia= OVERRATED

Kish= OVERRATED

I am a gay man myself, so I'm not a homophobe, but I just really don't get the firestorm over this firing.

If anything I'm more pissed about Scott Clifton's firing.

Blah to your post...lol

Scott Clifton firing is the only good thing OLTL did right. Scott is just an awful actor IMO.

The flack comes from them using the show's gay couple as scapegoats.

I'm convinced that people wrote in and ABC kowtowed, instead of committing to telling the story they started. This all happened so abruptly and given that one of the actors said it was due to the love scene, I have to believe it was the reaction of certain vocal fans that caused this. Those of us who either liked Kish or didn't care probably didn't make as much noise, so ABC panicked. Otherwise why would they think that Kish are the ones hurting the Tv Guide Article: Was OLTL too gay for America?ratings? OLTL's ratings have been hitting these low numbers for some time now.

I totally agree. ABC caved in to homophobic letters and emails and sacrificed the gay romance using the bad ratings as an excuse. It isn't the first time. There were rumors that ABC fired Peter Bergman because it got loads of racist letters over the Angie/Cliff romance. I also think that Bianca survived on AMC because lesbians are far more socially acceptable than gay men and are a turn on for predominantly male network executives.

Ugh! The know it all speaks.

Blah to your post...lol

Scott Clifton firing is the only good thing OLTL did right. Scott is just an awful actor IMO.

I was just kidding.

I am just more furious at how they ruined his character to prop Rex and Gigi.

Between Kish, and the cockamamie mayoral election, and the mass same-sex ceremony, and Nick and Amelia and Gay!Dorian, and of course, the continued presence of Llanview's "Ambiguously Gay Duo," John and Todd (you thought I was going to say David & Rex, didn't you, lol?)...OLTL didn't just "go gay" for awhile; it went FOSSE!

Now, I'm not saying all that was singlehandedly responsible for OLTL's low ratings (and that therefore, TPTB was right to cut Kish loose) but you have to admit - if your name wasn't Ron Carlivati or Nelson Branco and you can actually enjoy entertainment that isn't geared exclusively for the LGBT community, then it was all a bit much.

The flack comes from them using the show's gay couple as scapegoats.

True.

But I still feel like even without those claims, there would still be a big firestorm over this, and I just don't understand why. The story was groundbreaking, but cuts had to be made. (I wish FF and JPL had been cut over them though. LOL)

Between Kish, and the cockamamie mayoral election, and the mass same-sex ceremony, and Nick and Amelia and Gay!Dorian, and of course, the continued presence of Llanview's "Ambiguously Gay Duo," John and Todd (you thought I was going to say David & Rex, didn't you, lol?)...OLTL didn't just "go gay" for awhile; it went FOSSE!

Now, I'm not saying all that was singlehandedly responsible for OLTL's low ratings (and that therefore, TPTB was right to cut Kish loose) but you have to admit - if your name wasn't Ron Carlivati or Nelson Branco and you can actually enjoy entertainment that isn't geared exclusively for the LGBT community, then it was all a bit much.

Between Kish, and the cockamamie mayoral election, and the mass same-sex ceremony, and Nick and Amelia and Gay!Dorian, and of course, the continued presence of Llanview's "Ambiguously Gay Duo," John and Todd (you thought I was going to say David & Rex, didn't you, lol?)...OLTL didn't just "go gay" for awhile; it went FOSSE!

Now, I'm not saying all that was singlehandedly responsible for OLTL's low ratings (and that therefore, TPTB was right to cut Kish loose) but you have to admit - if your name wasn't Ron Carlivati or Nelson Branco and you can actually enjoy entertainment that isn't geared exclusively for the LGBT community, then it was all a bit much.

Between Kish, and the cockamamie mayoral election, and the mass same-sex ceremony, and Nick and Amelia and Gay!Dorian, and of course, the continued presence of Llanview's "Ambiguously Gay Duo," John and Todd (you thought I was going to say David & Rex, didn't you, lol?)...OLTL didn't just "go gay" for awhile; it went FOSSE!

Now, I'm not saying all that was singlehandedly responsible for OLTL's low ratings (and that therefore, TPTB was right to cut Kish loose) but you have to admit - if your name wasn't Ron Carlivati or Nelson Branco and you can actually enjoy entertainment that isn't geared exclusively for the LGBT community, then it was all a bit much.

I think the problem was the mayoral race and the mass same sex ceremony. Had Kish had their own story without the rest MAYBE they would still be on. I really didnt care for the whole Dorian is a lesbian story/mayoral race and the whole mass sex ceremony either. The show at times did same One Gay Life to Live but that wasn't the main problem....cough...Rex...Gigi...cough...Mitch.....

Edited April 6, 201015 yr by Ruxton Hills

As our former, intellegent President George W. Bush once said:

"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, fool me once, shame on—shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again."