Maybe Agnes Nixon has something to do with this and something was said and it went totally over the head of Brian Frons and they are going to have Wendy familiarize herself with the show and then have her move into the EP slot.

Of course. A 150-year old woman is still running the AMC business and is secretly writing it. You didn't know?

Of course. A 150-year old woman is still running the AMC business and is secretly writing it. You didn't know?

All I'm saying is IMO, things are happening at ABC Daytime that hasn't been made public. ABC wouldn't be doing all this stuff for AMC for nothing. AMC was the first soap on ABCD to reach number 1, GH may have held the position longer, but AMC is a much more critically acclaimed soap and can easily be repaired with the right people in place. With this move across country, the controversy with Pratt, something or someone went over Frons. With names like Lorraine Broderick and Wendy Riche floating around ABCD, something is going on behind the scenes that we don't know about.

Can someone help me understand a particular piece of hypocrisy contradiction, please? Soap fans scream ageism, lack of vets and history, and death to an influx of "newbies"... but in the same breath scream WE NEED NEW BLOOD whenever an (in)experienced or (un)skilled or (un)successful writer/producer is added to the same show. New blood, old blood, if it's tainted -- it's tainted. Hogan Sheffer was new blood, now everybody hates him (and retracts any praise they gave him in the 00's by saying it was old blooded Carolyn Culliton). David Kriezman and Ellen Wheeler were new blood, now everybody calls them show killers. Before Ron Carlivati's second coming, everyone started to write him off because of 1968 and the Rapemance. New or old blooded, I just want someone who can give this show another chance at delivering quality material.

I think a lot of the opinions change as time changes. Wheeler and Kriezman were praised for their first few years at GL. Around 2006 and 2007 that started to seriously decline. The people who liked their early work probably still do. The people who thought highly of Carlivati's early work as headwriter probably still do, they just haven't been as fond of what he's done since summer or fall 2008. Sheffer was actually quite lucky -- he was praised to the skies for his ATWT work. Then when the show started to suck, a lot of fans were willing to find other people to blame besides him, they claimed that somehow his true vision was being stifled. The same happened at DAYS -- oh, he can't be to blame, it's all Corday's fault, or it's the budget's fault. Only at Y&R, where he has repeated the same awful stories for the second or third or fourth times, has some of the hype really started to fade away.

I guess you could say that new daytime writers are defeated by hype they can never live up to. I do think that it varies depending on the writer.

Now that that's out of the way...

Edited January 10, 201015 yr by R Sinclair

Uh, yeah...Wendy Riche is coming back to daytime. As a second in command. Sure. Yeah.

I think a lot of the opinions change as time changes. Wheeler and Kriezman were praised for their first few years at GL. Around 2006 and 2007 that started to seriously decline. The people who liked their early work probably still do.

I'll get behind this. I liked their 2006. Their 2007 was awful.

Uh, yeah...Wendy Riche is coming back to daytime. As a second in command. Sure. Yeah.

I know, I don't believe it until it's confirmed,

Maybe she'll be a simple consulting producer, like she was at PC until the end?

Uh, yeah...Wendy Riche is coming back to daytime. As a second in command. Sure. Yeah.

Perhaps she's in a financial crisis and will take anything to re-fill her funds.

Daytime Confidential originally reported this: http://daytimeconfidential.com/2010/01/10/rumor-report-is-wendy-riche-returning-to-abc-daytime

And they've been VERY ACCURATE with their AMC scoops as of late....

Hmmm.....

Edited January 10, 201015 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Daytime Confidential originally reported this: http://daytimeconfid...-to-abc-daytime

And they've been VERY ACCURATE with their AMC scoops as of late....

Hmmm.....

Yeah. The first post says it's from DC. Third paragraph.

Yeah. The first post says it's from DC. Third paragraph.

I didn't read after the first paragraph.

It's funny, but DC has developed somewhat of a credible track record lately. Remember when they used to intentionally spread false rumours for hits?

Edited January 10, 201015 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Can someone help me understand a particular piece of hypocrisy contradiction, please? Soap fans scream ageism, lack of vets and history, and death to an influx of "newbies"... but in the same breath scream WE NEED NEW BLOOD whenever an (in)experienced or (un)skilled or (un)successful writer/producer is added to the same show. New blood, old blood, if it's tainted -- it's tainted. Hogan Sheffer was new blood, now everybody hates him (and retracts any praise they gave him in the 00's by saying it was old blooded Carolyn Culliton). David Kriezman and Ellen Wheeler were new blood, now everybody calls them show killers. Before Ron Carlivati's second coming, everyone started to write him off because of 1968 and the Rapemance. New or old blooded, I just want someone who can give this show another chance at delivering quality material.

I'm not going to apologize for wanting new blood. Hell I want new soaps but I'm not going to get those either. I'm tired of seeing the same names make the rounds and bringing us the same stories. I'm to the point where I don't even want to see rerun of writers I liked. I loved Malone but I don't really want to see him as HW at another soap. I'm not familiar with Riche so I have nothing against her. I'm just tired of seeing the same thing over and over.

I didn't read after the first paragraph.

It took me a while too!

It's funny, but DC has developed somewhat of a credible track record lately. Remember when they used to intentionally spread false rumours for hits?

Yes, they were infamous!

And then all of a sudden they started reporting about Griffith etc.

But I think the Shelly Curtis news goes to Kubla Khan.

From daytime confidential. This reunites Julie, Wendy and Shelley at AMC. What great news as I wish Wendy was going to be taking over AMC as executive producer. Wendy was HUGE for GH as she led the show during it's glory years.

Gloria Monty might have had something to say about that last sentence. The glory years?!?

I think a lot of the opinions change as time changes. Wheeler and Kriezman were praised for their first few years at GL. Around 2006 and 2007 that started to seriously decline. The people who liked their early work probably still do. The people who thought highly of Carlivati's early work as headwriter probably still do, they just haven't been as fond of what he's done since summer or fall 2008. Sheffer was actually quite lucky -- he was praised to the skies for his ATWT work. Then when the show started to suck, a lot of fans were willing to find other people to blame besides him, they claimed that somehow his true vision was being stifled. The same happened at DAYS -- oh, he can't be to blame, it's all Corday's fault, or it's the budget's fault. Only at Y&R, where he has repeated the same awful stories for the second or third or fourth times, has some of the hype really started to fade away.

I guess you could say that new daytime writers are defeated by hype they can never live up to. I do think that it varies depending on the writer.

And that touches on my question. What is it that's expected? Is the "new" writer(s)/producer expected to bring something new and fresh to the show or are they expected to do what the old blood did? That's where the contradiction resides for me and why I asked for clarification.

Gloria Monty might have had something to say about that last sentence. The glory years?!?

Like clockwork.