OLTL: Discussion for the week December 28

[DRW50]

Given the views most of the soaps generally have on interracial relationships these days, I think you're right. I think Destiny could be played by a supermodel and she'd still be second fiddle.

[EricMontreal22]

Would for me. I don't want to see her right now with Matthew because I find her scenes so hard to watch. If I liked theactor I suspect I'd find thecharacter more compelling. When she was a more minor figure she had some stuffthat gave hera lot ofsympathy--telling off the snotty kids at school etc but the last few months her delivery haskilledthe character--it's hard to feel sympathy for someone who reads every line while rolling her eyes or hiding smirks.

[DeeeDee]

Questionable talent?

Gex, Sole & Easton.

Yet no matter how bad their acting they aren't hurting for airtime, emotional context or romantic partners.

[EricMontreal22]

They all at least can delivery a fairly natural line reading. Destiny hasn't even managed that and any promise she has shown seems to have regressed.

[DRW50]

I hope you don't mean JPL

[Soapsuds]

He's' the worst....LOL

[DeeeDee]

Dani has done all those things & then some yet since she's white & "conventionally attractive" her insta love with Matt is acceptable.

Tarty was conveniently kicked under the rug when the audience rejected it despite it being played by GOOD actors so Todd could have his miracle family with Todd/Dani & wouldn't have to deal with any of the damage he caused to any of his existing family.

The same thing is happening to Matt/Des & recasting wouldn't help because the root of the issue is the direct insinuation that the Black Girl isn't worth being loved by anyone especially not the son of one of the most prominent families in Llanview.

That wouldn't change if Rae'ven Kelly was playing the part.

[DeeeDee]

Pretty much.

Keesha, Lainey & Kelly on GH?

DSLily & Roxie on Y&R?

Natalia on AMC?

Bonnie on ATWT?

[EricMontreal22]

Honestly while I know you're gonna say it's not, to me all that is irelevent. I think Dani is a much better actress (though it wouldn't behard not to be). That's why I think recasting is the way to go--then you'd ghet more people agreeing with you about how they've marginalized off this character, but for now frankly I'm glad. None of her family are that great as actors though I've always enjoyed Shaun and I wouldn't miss them if they left.

[TC]

Just guessing but maybe we are supposed to see Markko as a boy and Ford as a MAN - old soap plot. To me they look about a year apart in age but hey... I'm not Valentini who gets to sit in on the auditions.

[DRW50]

I see what you're saying about the Evans family, Eric, but I also have to wonder whether a stronger black presence would even be allowed on a soap today. Rachel got a quick love scene but otherwise she's a talk to. Hank is nowhere to be found. There's still Layla, who has had a decent year, but that almost seemed like a fluke.

[TC]

The real issue has a name and he's in charge of three soaps.

[DeeeDee]

That's really offensive.

Like REALLY offensive.

It's also indicative that the support for racial/gender/sexual minorities only exists one way.

It's not.

Bad acting or not offensive is offensive.

It's amazing the way gay stories/characters/fans are expected to be supported without question while racial ones are mocked & treated with disdain.

So what?

That hasn't stopped Gex, Sole, any Easton pairing?

Why are ethnic minorities held to a standard their Caucasian peers aren't?

And even HE who SAID the plus sized White girl was unattractive didn't have a problem with her having an active love life with men who loved her, valued her & who put her first.

Exactly.

Like TPTB saying they wanted to write for RJ.

[EricMontreal22]

Right, and I see that. I guess for me they're two seperate issues, though I do get that they'reinterconnected what I'm complaining about is lack of on screen talent.

Deedee almost half my family is black and I'm bi racial. Please don't jump to assumptions.

[DeeeDee]

You're the one making assumptions not me.

But what does half your family being Black have with the topic?

Their Caucasian peers aren't held to that standard.