I wouldn't mind Henry if they put him in more scenes with Barbara.

If it were me, I would bring back a few Hughes, a few of Emma's kids, write out a lot of the younger set, and replace them with some of the other Stewart or Hughes or Snyder children. What about Andy's daughter Hope? Frannie or Sabrina may have kids. Annie's quads probably have some teenagers, with soap rapid aging.

They need to bring Martha Byrne back, send Nuke to the moon..im over them, go back to family based stories like you said. This show is a hot mess. I can't stomach a whole episode of ATWT right now and yes, it was (past tense) also my show

only watching Carly and Jack on YT and old 1980's episodes online.

A big word to the bolded part. The ratings for ATWT starting dropping when Martha was let go. I think a lot of Carly and Jack fans have left. They got tired of Carly being trashed and ruined by the writers.

Seriously ....Trent Dawson being visited by Austin Peck as a ghost doesnt equal ratings success. What moron thought so??

Geesh...I think a lot of posters on SON could EP this show better than Goutman has done so far.

I just shake my head at what ATWT has become. The sad part is that this show is still salvageable if someone gave a damn about it.

A big word to the bolded part. The ratings for ATWT starting dropping when Martha was let go. I think a lot of Carly and Jack fans have left. They got tired of Carly being trashed and ruined by the writers.

Seriously ....Trent Dawson being visited by Austin Peck as a ghost doesnt equal ratings success. What moron thought so??

Geesh...I think a lot of posters on SON could EP this show better than Goutman has done so far.

I just shake my head at what ATWT has become. The sad part is that this show is still salvageable if someone gave a damn about it.

I agree ATWT is salvageable. Do you or anyone else know who can be a better EP and HW for ATWT. Even tho Douglas Marland is gone who could be a better Head writer that is not taken by another soap. Same with an EP. Thoughts? anyone.

I agree ATWT is salvageable. Do you or anyone else know who can be a better EP and HW for ATWT. Even tho Douglas Marland is gone who could be a better Head writer that is not taken by another soap. Same with an EP. Thoughts? anyone.

Wendy Riche?? GH fame

Kudos to Days! B&B is leaking viewers thanks to Y&R's struggles.

GH losing .2 of their 18 to 49 women demo is WTF. I didn't think that James Franco would bring tons of ratings, but lose in the key demo? Damn. After all that PR and promotion. I thought we were told over and over that James Franco was a big name that young viewers would know. Only GH could have a casting coup backfire like this.

I said earlier, Franco may be an A list actor but he's not an A list star. Probably C list star. And younger viewers could be just watching his clips online.

Wendy Riche?? GH fame

She must be really good cause I see her name alot.

James Franco - the most famous actor I don't especially recognise. Just looked at a list of movies that he has been in, an impressive list, still don't recognise him. Quite a buzz starter though.

Wendy Riche?? GH fame

Anyone with a desire to do a good job - put forth an effort - respect the history of the show and its actors - and keep stories this side of the twilight zone (still waiting for that teen vampire story - mark my words).

That's my thinking too. Getting us closer to regime change. But you know w hat makes me nervous is the new regime. Who could it be and I hope they would not be worse.

Why is it that you always post your thoughts above the quoted text you're replying to? I never know what the hell you're talking about until I scroll down to the quote. I generally like reading your posts but I just don't understand why you do that.

ABC Daytime as a whole is a mess. Those shows depend on each other. Viewers are now more and more likely to just reject the entire lineup -- it's no surprise that all of their shows have the same ratings. Even GH, which gets such hype and far more money than the others, is not doing well.

I don't know if they can find worse than Hogan, although now that I've said that they will. I hope they don't hire Passanante.

Perish the thought.....though I don't think we'll ever see her employed at Y&R. Honestly, I don't know who they need to hire over there but something needs to be done. The show is in terrible shape and there's no signs of it getting any better.

And, kind of OT, but is it driving anyone else nuts the way the soap press & especially Nelson Branco keeps heaping praise onto Stacy Haiduk? I think she's a talented actress but I just don't find her compelling in any sort of way. Never would I tune in just to see Haiduk or Patty or Emily. She's not at all what they're making her out to be.

At this point I dont care anymore. The show still could raise their ratings. Days is proof of that. But with Goutman and the hack writers at the helm this show doesnt stand a chance. Goutman is a cancer to ATWT. He needed to leave long time ago. He doesn't know what makes a good soap anymore. The sweeps month was going to be watched and ATWT didnt do squat in the ratings. Brad's death turned into a big failure with Ghost Brad. Nuke is just a waste of airtime. They should be fired now. Katie needs to be backburned. ATWT needs new blood in EP and capable writers. ATWT needs to bring the show back to focus on the Hughes family and fire a lot of dead weight...Trent Dawson...would be one..and so would Grayson McCouch..I never liked his version of Dusty anyway.

So if the ax falls on ATWT we only have Goutman and Pissy to blame. Yes.....YOU GOUTMAN!!...

The thing is though I don't find ATWT to be that bad the past couple months- in fact, I think it's been pretty good. They FINALLY ended Paul & Meg (THANK GOD!) and put him back with Emily, who he's always had tons of chemistry with. Unfortunately, they're not featured much. I know I'm in the minority, but I like Ghost Brad and really everything to do with Brad's death. This road trip that Jack & Carly are on, meeting up with past Oakdale residents, has been enjoyable and I can't wait til they find their way back to each other and we get a total Janet/Carly bitchfight. Yeah, the ratings aren't great, but they didn't bleed as many viewers as Y&R and frankly, the quality is a whole helluva lot better than that of Y&R right now.

A big word to the bolded part. The ratings for ATWT starting dropping when Martha was let go. I think a lot of Carly and Jack fans have left. They got tired of Carly being trashed and ruined by the writers.

Seriously ....Trent Dawson being visited by Austin Peck as a ghost doesnt equal ratings success. What moron thought so??

Geesh...I think a lot of posters on SON could EP this show better than Goutman has done so far.

I just shake my head at what ATWT has become. The sad part is that this show is still salvageable if someone gave a damn about it.

It's totally salvageable- they have their vets, they have some of the most talented actors in daytime, the show still looks pretty good considering the budget, they just need to bring it together.

And I was never a Martha Byrne fan- and have always LOVED Noelle Beck, so I don't mind her as Lily. I agree that the character is totally different now but I still enjoy Noelle's interpretation.

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I agree that some parts of ATWT are decent. I liked the whole road trip thing. I don't mind the ghost Brad but I think he has been around too long and the scenes are too repetitive. Other parts of ATWT don't work for me, I think it is the storytelling and the drabness of some of the characters. I hope if ATWT gets a chance they can work on some of this. I think those who say Goutman should go probably have a good point.

A lot of the time I think Lily is just a played out character, whether Martha or Noelle or whoever is in the role.

That's it? I was expecting more. This is a big disappointment for DAYS. Dammit! It looks like DAYS reached its peak and can't get any higher.

what? are you serious?

reached its peak? cant get any higher? even if that was true, it reached a damn good peak. going from the bottom of the pack and almost getting the axe to being the only soap to have substantial gains and to reach number 2? Way to go.

I never thought Franco was a huge draw to bring in any significant ratings. He's not the A lister ABC wants us to believe and his star power is very minimum.

It's not like Tom Cruise or Will Smith are doing a guest spot on GH or something...

Exactly. Franco is hype, not ratings. Franco fans are not going to tune into GH. Hes a great actor, not one of these actors with a huge draw and a crazy fanbase. I dont know what anyone expected.

No. Vanessa Marcil is massively overrated.

I think so too, but fans seem to clamor for her return. VM is not as overrated as Rebecca Budig. She's the Queen of OR.

Wow. If overrated is bringing in 1 million viewers and taking them when you leave, then yes she is. Damn, Genie Francis couldnt even do that.

Actually IMHO Marcil is the exception to the rule that actors/characters dont drive ratings, the overall show does. I always LOL when fanbases claim the ratings on such and such day went up or down because of such and such character. Thats such bullshit. The overall show = the ratings. The only people leaving when a actors leaves or a couple breaks up are the crazy fanbases and most of those people watch youtube clips anyways.

Total Viewers

1. Y&R 4,817,000 (-98,000/-263,000)

2. B&B 3,230,000 (-46,000/-341,000)

3. DAYS 3,124,000 (+69,000/+426,000)

4. GH 2,655,000 (-163,000/-164,000)

5. AMC 2,531,000 (-222,000/-59,000)

6. OLTL 2,528,000 (-164,000/-152,000)

7. ATWT 2,385,000 (-67,000/-270,000)

Days proves Daytime TV is not dead. Great drama at a good old pace, No stunts, Character driven storylines, Great acting. It pays off in the long run, we can all see that.

Days is up compared to last year by almost half a million viewers on a sweeps period. The only show going against the industry's downward 'trend' in a big way.

THANK YOU! And so well deserved too. Congrats to DAYS.

This shows that a slow build is what soaps need, not a sudden boom in the ratings. Hoepfully they can keep it up.

what? are you serious?

reached its peak? cant get any higher? even if that was true, it reached a damn good peak. going from the bottom of the pack and almost getting the axe to being the only soap to have substantial gains and to reach number 2? Way to go.

I'm greedy. For THAT WEEK, the climax of a one year story, where Sami confronts Nicole and gets Sydney back,....I wanted the moon and the stars! I wanted sole second place in HHs and Total Viewers, I wanted an increase in demos (both in viewers and rating), I wanted +100,000 gains. I'm happy about DAYS' rise, but I'm greedy.

2. DAYS 2.3/8 (+.1/+.3) --------> (Last time in 2nd place: June 7-11, 2004)

2. B&B 2.3/8 (-.1/-.3)

I wish DOOL's rise in the rankings wasn't predicated on another show tanking. I am happy that a show that ass NBC guy threatened to cancel is thriving, relatively speaking. I really believe he personally caused their ratings collapse. He told everyone the show was going to be canceled, and they lost something like 0.5 worth of viewers. It took this long to get stabilized.

So when was the last time DOOL raked in a 2.4?

I don't know what will bring back ATWT viewers. I'm loving the show overall, so I don't really understand the drop in the ratings. I guess the cheesy congressman stuff with Molly might have driven some people away for Nov 16-20 like I was afraid it might? But that was just for a couple days.

I think some of the ratings problem, but just a small part, may be because no more GL has meant boycotting, and people being out of the soap habit at that time of day.

More of a Hughes emphasis probably wouldn't hurt, but I don't know that it would help much either. Ratings were also low during the summer when the great Bob/Kim medical storyline, and Adam reveal with Tom and Margo and Casey also on the frontburner, were going on.

The show is already starting to emphasize family more, and should continue with this. I agree that bringing back Martha Byrne might help, although I personally am OK with Noelle Beck.

Getting rid of Nuke would *not* help, you'd just lose the Nuke viewers.

Tom Pelphrey's lone day of the week, Wednesday the 18th, got the highest rating for the week for ATWT, 1.9. This was also the lone day for Barbara, Paul, Emily and the non-Nuke younger crowd (Casey/Alli/Hunter/Maddie). Might not mean anything, but interesting, I'd like to see if it's also the case in future weeks that Barbara, Mick, Pem, or the college kids bring in the viewers. Wed. the 18th's higher rating might also be because Carly caught up with Molly and Jack that day.

Fingers crossed CBS will still renew! They need to invest in and promote the show as well, to give it a chance to rebound in the ratings.

I am still optimistic that ATWT will have a good rest of November and December in the ratings!

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2. DAYS 2.3/8 (+.1/+.3) --------> (Last time in 2nd place: June 7-11, 2004)

2. B&B 2.3/8 (-.1/-.3)

I wish DOOL's rise in the rankings wasn't predicated on another show tanking. I am happy that a show that ass NBC guy threatened to cancel is thriving, relatively speaking. I really believe he personally caused their ratings collapse. He told everyone the show was going to be canceled, and they lost something like 0.5 worth of viewers. It took this long to get stabilized.

So when was the last time DOOL raked in a 2.4?

I think days' ratings rise is thanks to the fact that its become a good soap again. The fact that B&B sucks major right now just helps it.