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8 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:
8 hours ago, wonderwoman1951 said:

i have it on good authority that goutman wanted to bring beverlee for the finale, but was overruled by pgp. 

I thought that at one point, too, and I even posted that. But then I found out that P&G had no problem with it & the invitation was extended. I learned about the invitation & about her health & her inability to fly at that point which caused her to have to decline, from her son Scott who is a friend, as well as being a Director at DAYS.

donna — pretty sure that we both heard the initial report from the same person, who was in a position to know at the time. i also posted about it.

thanks for the updated info.

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Just now, wonderwoman1951 said:

donna — pretty sure that we both heard the initial report from the same person, who was in a position to know at the time. i also posted about it.

thanks for the updated info.

Very possible!! I would still be clueless if Bev's son, Scott, hadn't kinda softly spoken up & said he thought he could clear up some of our (AW fans) confusion about his mom, etc. 

Happy to oblige & always, without fail, enjoy posting with you & reading your posts when I am not involved in discussions, too. 

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Just because someone says something in a book or interview doesn’t make it true or a fact. How many times have people been proven wrong about something in a book or an interview they gave. The Locher Room series alone has had so many erroneous statements that have been discussed here many times. Especially relating to GL.  So many believe everything they hear or read and run here and repeat it as fact. It’s in a book on page 227 so it has to be true! lol So many corrections to make. 

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13 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

And having Sam Groom back , but not as Russ.

Now that bugged the [!@#$%^&*] out of me - and I wasn't even alive when he still was on the show!

IIRC, there was a scene on GL where Roger had a bonding moment with Fletcher and Holly's newborn daughter, Meg, who was born with Down Syndrome.  In that scene, Roger promised always to look out for Meg, because he knew what it was like to be "different" from others.  To me, that scene, along with the scene that @Mitch64 described upthread, really captured the essence of Roger Thorpe.  He might have done some very dastardly deeds in life, and hurt a lot of people along the way, but you knew he'd always look out for the (metaphorical) underdog, too.

25 minutes ago, Khan said:

IIRC, there was a scene on GL where Roger had a bonding moment with Fletcher and Holly's newborn daughter, Meg, who was born with Down Syndrome.  In that scene, Roger promised always to look out for Meg, because he knew what it was like to be "different" from others.  To me, that scene, along with the scene that @Mitch64 described upthread, really captured the essence of Roger Thorpe.  He might have done some very dastardly deeds in life, and hurt a lot of people along the way, but you knew he'd always look out for the (metaphorical) underdog, too.

And, one other thing about Roger, ... Maureen Bauer was his friend. 

40 minutes ago, TEdgeofNight said:

Just because someone says something in a book or interview doesn’t make it true or a fact. How many times have people been proven wrong about something in a book or an interview they gave. The Locher Room series alone has had so many erroneous statements that have been discussed here many times. Especially relating to GL.  So many believe everything they hear or read and run here and repeat it as fact. It’s in a book on page 227 so it has to be true! lol So many corrections to make. 

As you are well aware, correcting errors online is one of my things. In this instance I was able to correct the error that PGP wouldn't allow Goutman to invite Beverlee back for the show finale. I'm sure you have a fine appreciation for that fact.

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I don't think McKinsey would ever have come back to AW in its last days regardless if P&G or Goutman wanted it.

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On 1/24/2024 at 4:59 PM, Donna L. Bridges said:

First CBS asked Bill Bell in public to create a new soap to replace GL. Bill Bell wisely stayed out of it. P&G and CBS fought until they reached the point that P&G said do anything as long as you don't cancel us & CBS handed down changes to both ATWT & to GL. For GL that's where the "new production model" came from. However, at the same time budgets were slashed & CBS didn't assist in implementing, so GL was on their own. That's the nutshell version. If Ellen Wheeler had not done what she did, GL would've been off the air 4 years before it was. 

There is just so much wrong being spread. So many untruths. Protect Ellen Wheeler the incompetent crybaby. 

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Why are you people so quick to dismiss the things that Donna is contributing with here? That's just information she is sharing, she is not forcing you to believe any of this, just sharing info. If I was you, I would just say thank you to a person that has done nothing wrong. It's clear that this is a personal attack towards a person that is one of the most essential ones with information and quality analysis in this forum. I personally believe what she is saying, because she has the receipts to prove most of the statements. So yeah... what is the problem IF Beverly wanted to come back and couldn't. You people act like Donna is saying something so wrong or so offensive. In the words of Chris Crocker from his infamous Britney video - Leave Donna Alone.

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I'll believe  an invitation was extended to Beverlee, but I don't think she would have accepted.

From everything I've read, she didn't seem the sentimental type and wouldn't be bothered returning to a show she left 19 years before that was being cancelled. And the fact that only Rachel was still around from her era wouldn't be much of an inducement.

4 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

I'll believe  an invitation was extended to Beverlee, but I don't think she would have accepted.

From everything I've read, she didn't seem the sentimental type and wouldn't be bothered returning to a show she left 19 years before that was being cancelled. And the fact that only Rachel was still around from her era wouldn't be much of an inducement.

Well, it is that Vicky was there that I think would have been the draw. They commiserated & drank together after losing an Emmy to Irene Dailey. VW gave her advice & a pep talk before she went in to negotiate about Texas. It seems to me that they were friends. 

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29 minutes ago, OpportunisticSlut said:

Why are you people so quick to dismiss the things that Donna is contributing with here? That's just information she is sharing, she is not forcing you to believe any of this, just sharing info. If I was you, I would just say thank you to a person that has done nothing wrong. It's clear that this is a personal attack towards a person that is one of the most essential ones with information and quality analysis in this forum. I personally believe what she is saying, because she has the receipts to prove most of the statements. So yeah... what is the problem IF Beverly wanted to come back and couldn't. You people act like Donna is saying something so wrong or so offensive. In the words of Chris Crocker from his infamous Britney video - Leave Donna Alone.

lol. Donna has been proven wrong more than right. Nice try. 

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