24 minutes ago, Khan said:

There came a point in GL's final year or two when it was obvious they no longer had a long-term plan for anything and instead were making up stuff based on which part of Peapack they were filming in that day.

I think they had plans & stratagems for some stuff & not for other stuff. 

But I am sure that you're making an excellent point about their logistics, which I think technically would be called NIGHTMARISH. When they were in the studio, when they were in Peapack, where in Peapack & whether it was snowing to beat the band, etc. And, then the editing, which had become such a major task. They did some editing immediately after taping & other editing later, in post as you'd expect. How did they keep from editing the previously edited material? And, so on. 

2 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

That reminds me that that disgusting Grady, G or whatever they called him was one of the worst characters ever on the show. They tried so hard to make him Jonathan 2.0 it just bombed so badly at a time when the show had hit its nadir in the summer of 2008. 
 

Phillip throwing him off a cliff with nobody caring and no one ever finding out was hilarious and satisfying especially since it was a well deserved death and punishment for such a despicable character. 

Personally I was just so very glad he was dead. I'm not sure if I know of any character so universally despised. 

Does anyone else remember when GL devoted an ENTIRE. EPISODE. To cast members building homes for Habitats for Humanity?

10 minutes ago, Khan said:

Does anyone else remember when GL devoted an ENTIRE. EPISODE. To cast members building homes for Habitats for Humanity?

Of course unfortunately. That was during their 70th Anniversary week and the debut of the “hairy hands” opening that was also GL’s worst opening credits IMO. 
 

But I don’t want to belittle that too much as I recall it was for Hurricane Katrina aftermath though.

Edited December 27, 20231 yr by soapfan770

On 12/25/2023 at 8:23 AM, Lujack4Ever said:

Long ago I made a promise to myself that if I ever got on the very first thing I would do is bow down to the poster called Mitch. I used to think I knew a lot about GL but after reading his posts I am John Snow knowing nothing compared to him. There is one area where we are match for match...the dislike of the character of Buzz Cooper.

Not only did he suck the airtime from so many other characters but his unlikely pairings one right after another was laughable and poor Lillian ultimately getting anchored to him  The one scene I always wanted to see was Springfield descending in mass on the diner for all the free meals he promised whenever he would rudely kick people out of the diner mid-meal.

No need to bow down to the hours upon hours I spent in my misspent life watching this show! But yea...join me in the hating on Buzz Cooper table anytime! Poor Lillian, she never did have any taste....remember when she was dating Hawk???? But at least Alex, despite her complete character assasination under Conboy, managed to dodge the Buzz bullet....

8 minutes ago, Mitch64 said:

But at least Alex, despite her complete character assasination under Conboy, managed to dodge the Buzz bullet....

Hate to burst your bubble but Buzz and Alex were an item there in the fall of 2003 with her making secret visits to him at Company. 

16 minutes ago, Mitch64 said:

No need to bow down to the hours upon hours I spent in my misspent life watching this show! But yea...join me in the hating on Buzz Cooper table anytime! Poor Lillian, she never did have any taste....remember when she was dating Hawk???? But at least Alex, despite her complete character assasination under Conboy, managed to dodge the Buzz bullet....

I have no interest in Buzz hatin' joinin' but I'd be proud to attach myself to any Conboy hatin'! Double up on it if Weston is thrown in for good measure. 

23 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Hate to burst your bubble but Buzz and Alex were an item there in the fall of 2003 with her making secret visits to him at Company. 

No they were out in the open weren't they?  What I meant was...Alex did not have to spend her soap after life with Buzz like Lillian did. 

Ellen Wheeler was so in over her head. The disastrous Peapack experiment cemented the cancellation of GL. Stupid idea all around. Ellen Wheeler was the worst EP ever. She cried all the time because she knew she couldn’t do the job. Terrible memories of GL getting killed by Wheeler, Hurst and Kreizman.

18 minutes ago, TEdgeofNight said:

Ellen Wheeler was so in over her head. The disastrous Peapack experiment cemented the cancellation of GL. Stupid idea all around. Ellen Wheeler was the worst EP ever. She cried all the time because she knew she couldn’t do the job. Terrible memories of GL getting killed by Wheeler, Hurst and Kreizman.

Oops you misspelled Conboy and Weston! Fixed it for you. 

On 12/26/2023 at 11:46 AM, Khan said:

I don´t think bringing him back in 2009 was a bad idea. My bone of contention was spending nearly nine months on a murder mystery in 2004-2005 where it turns out that the character was never dead to begin with and the character wasn´t coming back was a waste of time and energy. I liked Harley, but that story did me in. The trial, the prison stint, the GusH on the run... it was too much

There was practically no redeeming value for the Conboy/Weston era.  Yes, the lighting improved but the show didn't look like itself.  I could go on about the era's faults but we all know them.

Edited December 27, 20231 yr by Spoon

Weston/Conboy derailed a noble attempt by Rauch/Taggart/Culliton to ground and center the show. Even though they may have gotten the ratings up for what I believe was Feb Sweeps of 2004 with that ridiculous Maryanne Carruthers story, they were just as destructive to the show's core as some of their predecessors; McTavish, B&E, etc. 

1 hour ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Oops you misspelled Conboy and Weston! Fixed it for you. 

You can’t even spell Shayne correctly so be gone. No correction needed. Ellen Wheeler killed GL. End of story. 

49 minutes ago, Spoon said:

There was practically no redeeming value for the Conboy/Weston era.  Yes, the lighting improved but the show didn't look like itself.

I agree.  John Conboy never understood that GL was not Y&R or CAPITOL.  It did not need more gloss; it needed better stories.

Among Gail Kobe, Joe Willmore, JFP, Michael Laibson, Paul Rauch, John Conboy, Ellen Wheeler, which was the lesser of seven evils?

23 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Among Gail Kobe, Joe Willmore, JFP, Michael Laibson, Paul Rauch, John Conboy, Ellen Wheeler, which was the lesser of seven evils?

1. Gail Kobe
2. Joe Willmore
3. Ellen Wheeler
4. Paul Rauch
5. Michael Laibson
6. JFP
7. John Conboy