I’m up to November 02, 1999.

*They really got into Halloween this year, which I loved!

Phillip tells Beth that he’s impressed with how well she’s doing at Spaulding and tells her that Vanessa is taking an extended leave of absence, so he’d like to promote her as an executive, which thrills Beth. They then surprise Harley and Jim by having a double dinner date, which Phillip uses as an opportunity to convince Jim to come back to Spaulding. Jim says there is no way, but Beth tells him about her promotion and how they could work even closer, but Jim says he doesn’t want Beth working there anymore. They argue more and Jim/Beth leave, while Phillip tells Harley that if Jim and Josh are out, then he’ll have to send Beth to San Cristobel to oversee the project. Harley gets a little annoyed that Phillip always seems to keep Beth in his orbit, so he says she should go down to San Cristobel with him, and Harley finally agrees to go.

Susan changes her look, puts on a temporary tattoo and uses a new perfume to try and attract Max, but he asks where the old Susan went. He tells her to stop trying to be a Marah wannabe and just be normal, because that’s what he likes, which makes her happy. They play computer games and have fun, so Susan gets an idea to grab an open bottle of wine for them to drink. Max is hesitant, but says just one sip, and they cheers each other to being friends. Susan then kisses him quickly, but says ‘just friends’. They hear Jim and Beth coming home and freak out. Max is able to run and hide, and Susan tries to hide the wine, but they walk in and see Susan holding the full wine glasses and Jim gets upset. Susan lies and says she knew they were coming home and wanted to get wine ready for them, to which Beth covers for her and says she called Susan earlier on their way home. Jim seems to believe the lies and Beth privately tells Susan she better never do that again, and tells Susan to get Max out of the house. Susan and Max leave and Jim and Beth continue to talk about their work situation and Jim apologizes to Beth for telling her to quit her job. They talk about their relationship and their next step and Jim says he wants them to live together. Beth is excited and says yes and they celebrate, but she assumes they would move into the Spaulding mansion with her and Jim says no, she would move into their home, which surprises her. Jim says she can’t expect him to want to live in the same house as her ex (Phillip), but Beth says the mansion is so big, they could have their own wing and never run into Phillip or Alan, but that Lizzie needs to be around her family. Meanwhile outside, Max tells Susan that she tries too hard and they can’t be in a relationship the way she wants to be until they’re both older, which upsets Susan. He says he likes her, but she can’t be his girlfriend and if she can’t accept that, then they can’t be friends, and he walks away. She walks back into the house and overhears Jim/Beth talking about the mansion and asks if they’re moving into it. Jim says no, they could all live in their house together, but Susan says no way will she share a bedroom with Lizzie. She later tells Beth privately that she would rather move into the mansion and they can work together to convince him.

Selena tells Ben to accept Jesse, but Ben says he thinks Drew could do better. Selena urges Ben not to give up on the gift they were given (Drew), and it gets to him and he finally says he’ll lighten up.

Pilar finds a hotel suite key and realizes Ben still has a lease on the room, even though Carmen mentions to Pilar that Ben gave it up when he moved into their mansion. Pilar realizes Ben is keeping this a secret and privately vows to get rid of him. Pilar’s grandmother comes out of the shadows and tells Pilar she knows what she’s up to, with her attempt to kill Ben on the stairs. Pilar is surprised and the grandmother says she wants Ben gone too and she will help her. Pilar leaves and uses the key to get into Ben’s suite and starts snooping around his desk in the dark, just as Ben opens the door, turns on the lights and asks what she’s doing there. She says she just found out about the place and wanted to see how he lived. He isn’t really buying it and she lies and says the real truth is she wanted to get closer to him. She says she knows he read her diary and starts to touch him, saying she thinks he’s interested in her too. She kisses him, which he doesn’t quickly pull away from, but he then says he’s with Carmen and she needs to go back to Bill. Ben says she needs to get any thoughts about him out of her head, and Carmen would be devastated if she knew Pilar felt this way, so she must never know about what just happened. They leave the suite, but Pilar secretly leaves her diary hidden in the couch.

Vanessa confides in Matt that she’s scared she can’t parent Maureen properly when she starts to lose the ability to control her body. Matt continues to support her, saying they will beat this, and then Bill overhears and gets upset that he didn’t know Vanessa’s disease is back. She tells him that she was worried about him already with everything going on, and Bill eventually thinks Ben and the stress he’s putting on their family is the reason her disease is back.

Cassie is back in SF and goes to the Lewis house to pick up Tammy/RJ, but runs into Marah outside who says she’s still angry with Reva. Cassie tries to tell her that Richard is out of Reva’s life, but Reva walks out and says it’s not a good idea for Cassie to take her kids home. Reva makes Marah leave and the sisters argue, with Cassie accusing Reva of being jealous. Reva continues to say that Richard is only entertaining Cassie to get back to her (Reva is really annoying in this current storyline). Cassie tells Reva she is clearly obsessed with Richard and even Marah sees it. Reva gets upset about that comment, not realizing that Marah confided in Cassie. Cassie says it’s for the best that they take a break from each other and not talk, and Reva agrees. Cassie leaves and says she’ll pick the kids up tomorrow morning. Reva then asks Marah to talk, who asks Reva if things between her and Cassie are ok and Reva says they’re not. Marah says she knows what’s going on and Reva cries, acknowledging that she’s done some stupid things over the past few months and feels like she’s driving people away. Marah hugs her and says she’s still here and isn’t going anywhere, which makes Reva happy.

In San Cristobel, Richard finds a nice letter that Cassie wrote him before she left, which makes him feel warm. The protestors are back and the main guard/colonel, Dax, lies to them and says Richard will be announcing his engagement to a lady next month, and that it isn’t Olivia. The protesters are excited and leave, but Richard, who is visibly surprised and annoyed, lays into Dax, but he tells Richard that something had to be done in order to make the country stable. Richard tells him to fix this immediately before the newspapers pick it up. Later, a letter arrives and it’s from Edmund, who asks to meet Richard. Dax advises him against it, but Richard says Edmund would never kill him and they just need to settle things once and for all. He meets with Edmund and they argue about what Edmund has recently done, with Richard asking him if that’s the man he’s become - some villain that wants to off Richard’s family. Edmund says he is that man, but is still in pain and collapses to the floor because his head hurts so much from his prior injuries. He starts crying out, saying he never wanted anyone dead, he just wanted Reva and Jonathan gone, and apologizes. They talk about how they were always close brothers and how they needed each other, especially given how harsh and mean their father was as a ruler. Richard begs Edmund not to be like their father, and tells him it’s time to come home, be a family and rule the country together (these scenes were well-acted by both men!). Edmund seems to reluctantly agree, but surprises Richard by pulling out a gun and aiming it at him! Richard says he won’t pull the trigger, because he’d only be killing the one person who truly loved him. Richard turns around to leave and Edmund fires the gun, hitting the wall next to Richard. Edmund says he won’t join Richard and then leaves. Dax runs in and Richard tells him to find Edmund, but keep him alive. Dax reiterates that he must find a new princess by next month or else the citizens of San Cristobel will riot again.

Oh Sam isn’t gone yet! Holly stops by to see if he really left town, but he’s still there packing up his stuff. She gives him a hard time, saying he couldn’t even say goodbye to her in person like a man, but he says if he had to say it to her face, he wouldn’t be able to leave. She flirts a little and says he doesn’t have to leave just yet and kisses him. He then says he needs to go into town for a few things, but she knows where to find him, alluding to the barn, and outside he says aloud that it was a real pleasure to know Holly. Cassie comes home and mentions to Holly that Sam is gone, because all his stuff is gone from the barn, which surprises Holly. Cassie realizes something is missing so she starts searching the house and realizes all her valuables are gone, including her engagement ring to Hart, and says Sam stole everything and skipped town, leaving both women shocked. Damn, the writers really did Sam dirty with this and now I guess he truly is gone - poor Holly (his last episode- 10/27). Cassie calls Frank over to report it and he tells her he’ll try to find Sam, but he’s likely already crossed state lines and it may be hard. Ross comes over and Holly continues to apologize for keeping Sam in their lives. She laments about Sam using her and making her a fool. Meanwhile, the bank, who Cassie told to deny Richard’s money, is now after the farmhouse. Cassie had planned to use Hart’s engagement ring to save the farm, but now that it’s gone, she has no money and the bank is giving her 10 days before they take everything. Tammy is sad, but Cassie assures her they will always stay together no matter where they live.

Millennium is having a Halloween party and Danny and Michelle arrive, dressed like Dracula and a devil, and they run into Teresa, who is ironically also dressed like a devil. Danny is firm that tonight is his last night working with her, after they secure the band, but Teresa privately tells herself that she won’t let that happen and pulls out her vial of Fantasy. Upstairs, Michelle meets with Jesse and Drew, who are dressed as Sonny and Cher, but Ben then shows up. Michelle isn’t happy, but he says he came to talk to Jesse and the girls leave to go to the party. Michelle pulls Drew aside and wants to know what’s happening with Ben, while Jesse tells Ben he doesn’t want to talk and he needs to leave. Michelle says she understands wanting to know her father, but advises Drew to be careful with Ben and then goes downstairs. Ben tells Jesse he came to apologize, which is sincere, and Jesse softens up. Ben presents him with a very expensive painting and Jesse is happy. Drew walks in and thanks Ben for apologizing and Ben tells her that no matter where she goes, he’ll always love her and be with her in heart, and Drew hugs him and says she loves him too. Downstairs, someone bumps into Teresa and she drops the vial, which Michelle sees, picks up and asks Teresa what it is. Michelle realizes it’s a drug and asks why she has it, and Teresa lies and says it came from a band member and she was trying to get rid of it. Michelle gives it back and tells her to handle it and walks off. Ben comes downstairs and runs into Teresa, but blows her off a bit and says he’s not in the mood to help her drug Danny. He warns her to just use a tiny bit because too much could be dangerous. Teresa then finds a way to add the drug into Danny’s drink and they later cheers each other over the music deal, and we see him drink the drug. Danny starts to feel really hot, not feeling well, and he goes to a backroom to sit down. Teresa follows him and Danny starts to take some of his costume off because he’s so hot, but he’s also starting to get drunk and Teresa starts kissing him. She finds a way to lock them in the room and they continue kissing, but Danny stops and says they can’t and he needs to find a way to get out of there. Teresa starts telling him that Michelle is wrong for him and he doesn’t need someone that wants to change who he is. She kisses him and says they’re meant for each other, but Danny says he loves Michelle, but she keeps forcing herself on him with kisses. He stops her again, and as he starts looking for water, Teresa adds more Fantasy to a glass of water and gives it to him, which he drinks. Meanwhile, Michelle is searching for Danny and asks the bartender, who says he last saw Danny and Teresa together. Danny now can’t see straight and Teresa kisses him and unbuttons his shirt (this is becoming a date rape situation). She eventually stops when she realizes Danny passes out, and she starts to freak out, thinking he’s dead when he won’t wake up. She tries to call 911, but for some reason the phone doesn’t work.

Harley, dressed as Cruella de Vil, sneaks Blake, dressed as a witch, in to see her boys during Halloween as they trick or treat. Ross is cheering Holly up from the Sam incident and suggests they have dinner, but first go trick or treating with the boys and Harley. They show up to Harley’s house and knock on the door, announcing who they are, and the ladies freak out. Blake hides and Harley answers the door, but the boys yell out that their mommy is here and they drag Blake out of hiding, shocking Ross and Holly. Blake says she came home from Tuscany with her boyfriend so she could quietly see the boys for Halloween, but that she and her boyfriend are still very much together. Holly asks where he is and Harley covers, saying he’s at the local hotel, but that he’d find Blake at the Millennium costume party. Ross suggests they all go so Blake can introduce them to him, and Blake makes up a name Cameron. As Ross and Holly take the boys to their bedroom, Blake frantically calls an old PR friend, Joe, and leaves a message, asking him to meet her at Millennium immediately. Ross and Blake leave, and Harley lies to Holly that she found the manuscript author, Darlena LaCross, who is a recluse. She says Darlena only wants to deal with Harley and not Holly or the Journal, because she doesn’t want anyone knowing her real identity. Cassie then shows up with Tammy and RJ, asking if Harley would babysit for the night. Tammy tells Harley that a man from the bank came by and said they’re going to lose their house, which surprises Harley. Harley offers to lend Cassie money, but Cassie refuses and says she can manage. We later see her at a seedy office in a strip club, looking for a job. The manager makes her show off her body first, which annoys her and she runs out of the office. She stands outside, struggling with what to do next, but then goes back in and tells the manager she needs the job and will do whatever he wants to get it.

At Millennium, Reva and Josh both show up, not in costume, and it appears Marah set them both up to run into each other. They have relatively pleasant small talk, if not a bit awkward, and Reva leaves to grab them a drink. Olivia then walks up to Josh and they acknowledge Josh telling Reva about Olivia kissing him, but she asks if there was more to it for him, given how Reva described it to her previously. Josh stumbles a bit, but says he was tempted in that night, but he’s ultimately married, even if he finds her beautiful. Olivia says that’s all she needs to hear, validation from someone that she’s beautiful and he then walks away just as Reva walks up to Olivia. Before Reva can say anything, Olivia just tells her to remind Josh why he loves her and she walks away. Reva finds Josh and asks if she can take him to a secret location; it’ll be worth his while, so he agrees and they leave Millennium.

Pilar and her grandma are now at the costume party and Pilar tells her about hiding the diary at Ben’s suite, and her plan is to make Carmen find it there. Carmen shows up, looking for Ben, and the grandma makes up a story that someone called the house about fixing a leak at Ben’s suite. Carmen doesn’t let this phase her (since she doesn’t know Ben kept his suite), but when she finds Ben, she brings up the call. He doesn’t deny it and takes her to his suite, telling her she’s welcome to search the place for any secrets she thinks he has. An annoyed Ben tells her he paid the lease in advance, which is why he still has it, and Carmen eventually apologizes for overreacting. They start kissing and move to the couch, but Carmen sits on the diary, finds it and realizes it’s Pilar’s diary. She questions why Pilar was in his apartment, and reads an entry that she wrote about loving Ben. She’s angry and asks Ben what he’s done to her daughter. She demands to know why Ben didn’t tell her about any of this and how it looks like he’s having an affair with Pilar. Ben defends himself saying Pilar is mixed up and he isn’t sure what her intentions are. Carmen says Pilar wouldn’t do this to her and he must have seduced her, but Ben says Pilar has problems. Ben says he is disappointed that Carmen doesn’t trust him and tells her to leave. After Carmen leaves, Ben says to himself that Pilar is a stupid little girl. A crying Carmen then comes back, apologizes and asks him to come back home with her. He wants to stay there and leaves to order room service, and Carmen privately vows to kill Ben if she ever found out he was seducing Pilar. A happy Drew then stops by and presents Max’s adoption papers for Ben to review before their hearing, and Carmen leaves to find Pilar. Drew and Ben have a nice father/daughter chat over dinner and Ben confides in her that he kept the apartment as an escape pad from Carmen in case he ever felt like he needed it, and Drew tells him maybe that’s a sign they shouldn’t be together. They talk more, hug and Drew tells him she loves him. I think Ben really is his best self when he’s with Drew (and Selena).

Blake arrives at Millennium before Ross and finds her friend Joe (who is very handsome, wow - Mark Deklin is the actor), and Ross walks up and they all meet. After they talk a bit off-camera, Ross stands up and says he must be going. Blake walks him out and Ross tells her it’s good to see that Cameron makes her happy, but Blake says she’s never been as happy as she was with Ross. But she then says Cameron asked her to marry him and says she’s thinking about it. Holly shows up and Ross tells her he’s in shock and she says she’ll take care of him.

Harley and Phillip finally arrive and meet Rick and Abby for a drink. Only Harley is dressed up and they shoot the breeze, talking about Phillip and Harley’s upcoming trip to San Cristobel,  until Michelle walks up and says hi, but asks if they know where Danny is. They don’t and she tells them about Teresa, and Michelle leaves to continue looking for him. Rick pulls her aside and asks what’s going on with Danny and Teresa, but Michelle says he trusts Danny and Teresa is just annoying. A bartender tells Michelle he saw Danny and Teresa in the back office, so she walks towards it as Teresa bangs on the door, yelling out for help. Michelle hears her and opens the door and freaks out seeing Danny unconscious. She demands to know what happened and Teresa confesses that she drugged him. Michelle tells Teresa to run downstairs and get her brother Rick while Michelle attempts CPR. Rick and Teresa arrive and Rick is able to get Danny awake, and Michelle screams at Teresa that she could have killed him. A crying Teresa mentions that someone put her up to it and finally admitted that it was Ben, which angers Michelle, who says Ben will pay for this. Danny is fully conscious now and realizes what Teresa did, but Michelle wants Teresa not to tell Danny that Ben was involved. Teresa wants to know why Michelle is protecting Ben, and she says Danny just got away from the family business and she doesn’t want Danny involved again, so Teresa needs to take the blame for this. Danny then demands to know why Teresa drugged him, and says it’s stupid of her to think he’d leave Michelle for her. She continues the lie that it was just her fault and Ben wasn’t involved and Danny/Michelle/Rick leave for the hospital.

Bill walks into Millennium, looking for Michelle, but Pilar sees him and asks why he looks so tired, but he blows her off. She tells him that after tonight, things should change for them and they’ll be able to be together again, which confuses Bill. Pilar says she thinks her mom will break up with Ben soon and he’ll be out of their lives forever. She still realizes something is upsetting Bill and he finally cries and confides in her about Vanessa’s disease and being sick. She comforts him and tells him not to blame himself, but he says he feels so helpless. Carmen then comes down and tells Pilar they need to talk, and shows her the diary. Bill wants to know what’s going on, grabs the diary and reads it. Pilar panics, saying he’s not going to understand, but he says it’s clear that she’s in love with Ben and he storms out. Carmen asks Pilar if these feelings for Ben are real and Pilar lies, saying yes and Carmen slaps her.

Ross laments to Holly that anything he had with Blake is over after seeing her with the younger Cameron/Joe. She comforts him and makes him laugh by showing him that the wooden box that Sam made for her was really just a mass-produced box from Taiwan (I hate that they just turned Sam into a blatant scammer). Ross hands Holly a hammer and they take turns smashing the box, vowing they’re both going to move on by saying “out with the old, in with the new”. Holly mentions that Ross was always a good friend to her, and Ross asks what she thinks would have happened if they got married long ago. He says it’s something he’s thought of many times before, but probably was for the best, which she agrees, but it was something to fondly remember. Meanwhile, Blake takes her friend Joe back to the Bauer cabin and he gets to read some of her manuscript and says its really good, but she clearly left clues about the main character’s real identity (Blake). She freaks out a little, but tries to convince him it’s not really her, but he laughs and leaves, saying her Freudian slip is showing. The fantasy Ross/Holly characters appear again and tell Blake she needs to be honest with everyone.

Reva takes Josh to Cross Creek, which doesn’t surprise him, and he talks about the great memories from long ago there, but then says all he can see now is Reva with Richard right there in front of the fireplace. She says the goal is to forget everything about Richard so they can make Cross Creek their place again, but Josh says he’s not sure they can do that. They’re interrupted by an old man Otis, the Cross Creek caretaker (11/01), who was driving a ton of older folks to a casino, but his car broke down. Reva and Josh offer them all to stay while the car gets fixed. The folks talk about their one true loves and soulmates, which touches Reva and Josh. They play bingo until Otis gets the car fixed and they all leave, with one man telling Josh and Reva not to give up on their love.

Elizabeth Keifer (Blake) two commercials she did when she was on Guiding Light

Monistat 7 (1994)

Pepcid AC Commercial (1999)

54 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

Reva is really annoying in this current storyline

I think it would be a challenge to find a storyline where she's NOT annoying. 😁

BTW, I was watching The Leftovers the other night (my THIRD attempt--so many people say it's such a fantastic show, but I'm still on the fence). Anyway, in episode 6 of Season 1, who should suddenly pop up in a scene? Ellen Parker! I almost didn't recognize her at first, she had a lot of hair in her face and she was wearing large glasses. Then she started to talk, and I knew it was her. I looked it up. It is her last television credit (2014). She has a couple of film credits after that.

Anyway, it was a pleasure to see her even in such a brief scene, especially since we were talking about her recently.

On 11/6/2026 at 12:03 PM, SoapDope78 said:

It would have been awesome if Rita had stayed on and she and Vanessa had become rivals catfighting over Ed.

Rivals, yes! Over Peter Simon's Ed...not so much. It would've been awesome to see Rita and Van go at it--the women of the era really weren't inclined to go toe-to-toe with Vanessa (aside from Diane and PsychoCarrie). But Rita wouldn't have hesitated to let Van know exactly what she thought.

When Van and Nola go at it, Nola's all up in her scrappy and noble phase. sideeye

If you were to ask me which actor and character should have stayed on GL 'til the very, bitter end, I would answer, "Fran Myers/Peggy Scott," with no hesitation whatsoever. She, more than anyone, could have inherited the mantle of "town mother" from Bert Bauer.

1 hour ago, alwaysAMC said:

I’m up to November 02, 1999.

1 hour ago, alwaysAMC said:

(Reva is really annoying in this current storyline).

Damn, the writers really did Sam dirty with this and now I guess he truly is gone - poor Holly (his last episode- 10/27).

(I hate that they just turned Sam into a blatant scammer).

Ross hands Holly a hammer and they take turns smashing the box, vowing they’re both going to move on by saying “out with the old, in with the new”. Holly mentions that Ross was always a good friend to her, and Ross asks what she thinks would have happened if they got married long ago

Otis, the Cross Creek caretaker (11/01),

couple of notes:

Driving people out of her life is sort of the fall-back Reva story. Then she realizes she's been a moron, cries, and expects people to just forgive her because now she's sorry.

Sam was played by Tom Wiggin, who'd been on ATWT for years as Kirk Anderson. I giggle when I saw he'd robbed Cassie--because of course then the poor little ex-stripper has to fall into the Prince's arms.

The actor who played Otis had multiple roles on the show over the years.

And this rose-colored glasses rehash of Holly and Ross' relationship is more than a little plot contrivance. I get it---but that bridge had burned down a long time ago.

14 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Rivals, yes! Over Peter Simon's Ed...not so much. It would've been awesome to see Rita and Van go at it--the women of the era really weren't inclined to go toe-to-toe with Vanessa (aside from Diane and PsychoCarrie). But Rita wouldn't have hesitated to let Van know exactly what she thought.

I'm pretty sure if Lenore had stayed on the show, Rita would not have become rivals with Vanessa over Ed. It was going to be Rita vs. Hope/Diane over Alan (if Sofia had also decided not to leave).

You would think they would have had Vanessa eventually trying to win Ed over Maureen. But possibly they felt PS and MK had no chemistry? Other than Ross, Ed was pretty much the only real relationship Marland wrote for Vanessa (Tony and her other various conquests were only sex buddies). It isn't until Long arrives that she's given a real romantic story with Billy. Which is a little odd, considering Vanessa was Marland's invention.

1 hour ago, DeeVee said:

I'm pretty sure if Lenore had stayed on the show, Rita would not have become rivals with Vanessa over Ed. It was going to be Rita vs. Hope/Diane over Alan (if Sofia had also decided not to leave).

You would think they would have had Vanessa eventually trying to win Ed over Maureen. But possibly they felt PS and MK had no chemistry? Other than Ross, Ed was pretty much the only real relationship Marland wrote for Vanessa (Tony and her other various conquests were only sex buddies). It isn't until Long arrives that she's given a real romantic story with Billy. Which is a little odd, considering Vanessa was Marland's invention.

Maybe it wouldn't have exactly been sparring over Ed. But I could see them bristling at each other--especially when Rita found out Van blackmailed Alan over the affair. Van would've been insecure over Ed, who tended to moon over past lovers, and distrusting Rita's influence over Alan.

It doesn't seem Marland had a plan for Vanessa other than being an irritant to everyone around her. I like to think he would've gotten around to giving her a relationship with depth. But admittedly, he's not really great at that at the time.

I don't think Maeve's chemistry with either MH or PS mattered to the show. They had set Vanessa up to fail with Ed from the jump, and clearly had plans for them to both quickly move on.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by P.J.

10 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Maybe it wouldn't have exactly been sparring over Ed. But I could see them bristling at each other--especially when Rita found out Van blackmailed Alan over the affair. Van would've been insecure over Ed, who tended to moon over past lovers, and distrusting Rita's influence over Alan.

It doesn't seem Marland had a plan for Vanessa other than being an irritant to everyone around her. I like to think he would've gotten around to giving her a relationship with depth. But admittedly, he's not really great at that at the time.

I don't think Maeve's chemistry with either MH or PS mattered to the show. They had set Vanessa up to fail with Ed from the jump, and clearly had plans for them to both quickly move on.

Vanessa seemed to only be with Ed so he would be freed of scheming women and find purity with Maureen.

Trying them again after Maureen died could have been interesting but it would have felt wrong. And I can't see Vanessa wanting to be with such a dreary man.

3 hours ago, P.J. said:

couple of notes:

Driving people out of her life is sort of the fall-back Reva story. Then she realizes she's been a moron, cries, and expects people to just forgive her because now she's sorry.

Sam was played by Tom Wiggin, who'd been on ATWT for years as Kirk Anderson. I giggle when I saw he'd robbed Cassie--because of course then the poor little ex-stripper has to fall into the Prince's arms.

The actor who played Otis had multiple roles on the show over the years.

And this rose-colored glasses rehash of Holly and Ross' relationship is more than a little plot contrivance. I get it---but that bridge had burned down a long time ago.

Reva is a lot and she's polarizing, but I've never been as put off with her as I am right now.

Yeah I really wish we knew the BTS story on why they cut Sam so quickly. Or, was he always meant to be a short-term character? It just feels like they tried to give Holly a story, but then she got put into the Ross/Blake thing, gave that priority and cut their losses with Sam.

Oh this Cassie/Richard story is really heavy-handed LOL. It's too perfect in how they've created the circumstance. And f'ing Reva just can't let Cassie be happy. Her jealousy is so obvious and Josh should drop her ass. Not that I want him with Olivia, but it'd serve her right haha. I don't know, maybe that's what ultimately happens because they don't quite know what to do with Olivia yet other than tease a pairing with Josh.

4 hours ago, TheyStartedOnSoaps said:

Elizabeth Keifer (Blake) two commercials she did when she was on Guiding Light

Monistat 7 (1994)

Pepcid AC Commercial (1999)

LOL - not something I expected to hear out of Liz's mouth.

Llove to see these things though, so thanks for posting!

49 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Vanessa seemed to only be with Ed so he would be freed of scheming women and find purity with Maureen.

Trying them again after Maureen died could have been interesting but it would have felt wrong. And I can't see Vanessa wanting to be with such a dreary man.

It seems that way, but I can't help but think the story as originally intended would've been more than that. If Hulswit hadn't been fired, I'm not sure the show would've stuck Ed with the level-headed Maureen.

Them trying Ed/Van after Maureen's death would've been seven kinds of wrong. And you kind of feel that the show knew anyone stepping into Maureen's shoes was in a weird position. You'd think it would've been natural for Van to try and connect with Michelle, but we never see that--even though it's talked about later.

23 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

Reva is a lot and she's polarizing, but I've never been as put off with her as I am right now.

Yeah I really wish we knew the BTS story on why they cut Sam so quickly. Or, was he always meant to be a short-term character? It just feels like they tried to give Holly a story, but then she got put into the Ross/Blake thing, gave that priority and cut their losses with Sam.

Oh this Cassie/Richard story is really heavy-handed LOL. It's too perfect in how they've created the circumstance. And f'ing Reva just can't let Cassie be happy. Her jealousy is so obvious and Josh should drop her ass. Not that I want him with Olivia, but it'd serve her right haha. I don't know, maybe that's what ultimately happens because they don't quite know what to do with Olivia yet other than tease a pairing with Josh.

LOL - not something I expected to hear out of Liz's mouth.

Llove to see these things though, so thanks for posting!

Why Josh put up with Reva's trifling ass FOR YEARS is a mystery. Most guys would've run away after she married dear ol' Dad.