7 hours ago, Mitch64 said:

That's true..that scene when JC picks Reva up and just throws her...and Zimmer took it like a champ..which really added to Reva's allure. Some of Reva's best relationships were with guy friends...Fletcher, Phillip, Johnny. Rauch tossed all that out so that it was all men had to be IN LOVE with the goddess, and that lost a great part of her character that made her rootable. Reva the middle aged sex goddess was not.

I didn't really appreciate what a big, imposing presence Jordan is until I started rewatching. I'm not even real sure how he managed to keep a hold of her with Kim flailing like she does in that scene.

Reva had to have guy friends. She didn't have any women friends until Abby.

8 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Someone I know has posted a 1980 GL episode with Kevin Bacon in it. Also a very young Holly (MG), Martin Hulswitt, Chris Bernau, that "Leaves" opening. I'm trying not to post links so here's the description, what you'll need to find it. It's on Rumble, the Rich Vernadeau Show - channel, video title is "GUIDING LIGHT May 28, 1980 full episode KEVIN BACON" 

Just thought some here might enjoy it.

Thanks for letting us know. If anyone wants to see the Youtube version this one has been up for about a decade:

 

Just now, DRW50 said:

Thanks for letting us know. If anyone wants to see the Youtube version this one has been up for about a decade:

 

Oh, sorry, not special. 

1 minute ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Oh, sorry, not special. 

It's still special, but I wanted to share an earlier link.

24 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

It's still special, but I wanted to share an earlier link.

Points for diplomacy.

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

It's still special, but I wanted to share an earlier link.

And one that isn't on [!@#$%^&*] Rumble.

2 hours ago, P.J. said:

I didn't really appreciate what a big, imposing presence Jordan is until I started rewatching. I'm not even real sure how he managed to keep a hold of her with Kim flailing like she does in that scene.

Reva had to have guy friends. She didn't have any women friends until Abby.

The scene where Billy drags Reva out of bed with Josh? The physicality with which the Lewis men treated Reva made a lot of sense storywise. In the back of their minds she was always the just the housekeeper's loose daughter - a toy they played with and threw away when they were finished.

During my 80s rewatch I was stunned to see Lillian as one of Reva's bridesmaids during her aborted wedding to Kyle. Reva was so lacking in female friends she resorted to her dad's girlfriend. The other bridesmaids were sister Roxie and Dorie, a child she barely knew.

In later years I loved Reva's friendship with Selena because they were both somewhat hardened, bawdy women. In their scenes together Selena brought out that side in Reva. Your post reminded me they both had a connection to Abby.

And Olivia's friendship with Holly during the same era - both smart and driven women burned by neglectful/abusive men. It made sense Holly gravitated to Olivia after Van's departure. Also the famous Harley/Cassie/Blake trio.

Youtube keeps recommending me clips of GL during the 1988 period. I will never understand how Carl Tye Evans was not bigger in the business. He was so charismatic and talented. I know Rick Hearst had the better material, but Evans was my fave.

On 1/25/2025 at 2:17 PM, Sapounopera said:

Bridget Reardon was in some ways the Sami prototype. 

Funny you should mention Bridget cause I do remember hearing some scuttlebutt years ago that the Bridget Nadine baby stuff was some of JER's influence I do not know precisely how true that is, but it tracks. 

13 minutes ago, chrisml said:

Youtube keeps recommending me clips of GL during the 1988 period. I will never understand how Carl Tye Evans was not bigger in the business. He was so charismatic and talented. I know Rick Hearst had the better material, but Evans was my fave.

I actually think Carl might have had the better material. RIck spent a lot of his time as Alan-Michael scheming or pouting. 

Carl had so much charisma. Even in a bad part on ATWT.

On 1/20/2025 at 10:06 PM, P.J. said:

Alright...now I've got to ask...what the hell makes Maureen Roger's friend? Is there something huge that I miss by not watching the first half of '89? Because I can literally recall one conversation between them, and that's during the blackout. I get that in that from '89 to '92, she's almost literally the only person not actively out for his blood, but if that's all it took, then damn.

Here is a fun scene from 1989. I think this is the first Maureen/Roger scene. I think the rest was just Maureen seeing the entire town against him and being removed from the worst part of Roger's reign of terror. 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Alan said:

The scene where Billy drags Reva out of bed with Josh? The physicality with which the Lewis men treated Reva made a lot of sense storywise. In the back of their minds she was always the just the housekeeper's loose daughter - a toy they played with and threw away when they were finished.

During my 80s rewatch I was stunned to see Lillian as one of Reva's bridesmaids during her aborted wedding to Kyle. Reva was so lacking in female friends she resorted to her dad's girlfriend. The other bridesmaids were sister Roxie and Dorie, a child she barely knew.

Yes, that one. I don't think Billy and Josh's treatment of Reva has anything to do with her being "loose" or their housekeeper's daughter. Billy gets handsy when he's drunk or angry, and with Josh it's his anger too. Not that her manipulations excuse their actions, but Reva has zero problem playing all the Lewis men to get what she thinks she's owed.

Their anger isn't unjustified, but the side effect (IMO) is that it somehow makes Reva sympathetic. They become the assh(oles, even though what Reva's done has torn their family apart. Before the accident, Billy is actually the one who encourages Josh to admit he loves her, and he's fine with the Josh/Reva relationship. It's marrying HB that crosses the line.

LOL...considering how many times Reva got married, I think that was the only time she really had bridesmaids. 

19 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I actually think Carl might have had the better material. RIck spent a lot of his time as Alan-Michael scheming or pouting. 

Carl had so much charisma. Even in a bad part on ATWT.

I love them both, and I actually think each was perfect for who A-M was at that point in his life. But yeah, I can't believe another soap didn't snap CTE up.

14 minutes ago, Dan said:

Here is a fun scene from 1989. I think this is the first Maureen/Roger scene. I think the rest was just Maureen seeing the entire town against him and being removed from the worst part of Roger's reign of terror. 

 

It still just boggles my mind.  And it would've been so fascinating to have Maureen as part of Peter's custody fight.

1 hour ago, chrisml said:

Youtube keeps recommending me clips of GL during the 1988 period. I will never understand how Carl Tye Evans was not bigger in the business. He was so charismatic and talented. I know Rick Hearst had the better material, but Evans was my fave.

Evans was my favourite Alan-Michael too.  I wonder if they ever tried to get him back.

11 minutes ago, Efulton said:

Evans was my favourite Alan-Michael too.  I wonder if they ever tried to get him back.

I am surprised they didn't try and snag him around the time he finished that stint on ATWT. That would've been a perfect time for Alan Michael to return. The story might've been better (too) compared to the story the character got a few years later under the final recast. 

2 minutes ago, Efulton said:

Evans was my favourite Alan-Michael too.  I wonder if they ever tried to get him back.

Well, Vive la différence! That's my way of saying Rick Hearst all the way. CTE good looking man. But that's all. Did Michael Dietz ever play A-M?