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I don't get why the people writing this show think it's so true to history and that it's so good. That pisses me off more than anything, their heads are too far up their asses to look at their own show objectively.

We're never going to see any changes, and characters like Jill, who were once so important and vital to the show will continue to be written as irrelevant and child-like.

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I don't see Y&R that much different than what GH and now AMC have become on ABC. At least Y&R still features and focuses on characters over 40.

I hate how Jill has been marginalized. She is about the worst of all of them. Gloria I honestly don't really care about but Jill and Nikki yes. I did like the scenes with Katherine and Jill today and hoped this was a turning point for them and for Jill. Doubtful it will be for Jill.

And I am still shocked they killed off Colleen so soon after Brad. Kind of reminds me of GH where they killed off Alan Q and Emily Q(father and daughter) within 7 months of each other and their deaths also had no longlasting impact to the show and both certainly could have driven significant story for months.

I am clueless as to what they are supposed to be doing with Phillip, Nina, Chance, Chloe, Billy, Mac.

It has been nice to see Beth back and her performance has been the one bright spot in this whole Colleen debacle.

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I posted this in the other thread, but it's clearly a response to this post.

This show is ALL Maria Arena Bell, Hogan Sheffer, and Scott Hamner's toxic vision. I refuse to believe anyone is forcing anything on them. I saw what Sheffer and Hamner have done on other shows, and I know what Maria's solo stint at Y&R was like. All of these people needs to be fired for their lazy, damaging, and uncreative writing.

Also, the people running this show are very boastful about how the network doesn't interfere and how the show is all them. I don't think they would be this boastful if it wasn't true.

The people writing this show deserve all the blame, not CBS or Sony.

Here's what both Maria and Paul Rauch have said:

http://tvguide.ca/2008s+ente...r_nb.htm?isfa=1

http://tvguide.ca/Soaps/Features/Articles/090917_paul_rauch_NB

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I never really watched GH but was a loyal viewer of AMC until 2001 or so. Around that time I started going to school and could mostly watch on my days off. At first it became a show all about new characters I had little interest in and then the characters I have loved for years: Erica, Tad, Adam, Opal became used very rarely and only then as supporting characters to the newbies they were devoted to. Then the hacks in control started reversing years of vital history for the sake of short term sensationalism and at that point I was done. Now even if it is the only thing on TV, I'd sooner sit around and watch a turned off tv than that bull [!@#$%^&*]. Y&R is very quickly becoming the same thing with all the reversed deaths and focus on islanded cheap newbies while treating the veterans like nuisance panhandlers. I'm disgusted and Bill Bell's daughter in law should be ashamed of herself for what she has turned his legacy into. At least with external head writers they had no real connection to the show they were crapping all over.

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They showed a flashback of Adam hiding a letter from Nikki, but now I can't remember which episode the flashback was in. It was one where Ashley was talking about thinking that she had run over Nikki. Then we saw Adam flashback to a letter arriving from Nikki and Adam taking it. Presumably this had happened soon after Nikki left town.

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