Members P.J. Posted August 14, 2009 Members Share Posted August 14, 2009 The ONLY moment in the Holden story that made me tear up is Meg telling Emma there's been an accident. Kathleen Widdows is so underrated....she's a freakin' master. All the blubbering of Noelle Beck and the unintentional hilarity of Van Hansis trying to "powerfully hold back as Luke tells Damian" mean SQUAT. KW is old school, rip out your guts with the understated truth of the scene. I know quite a few actors who should just watch her and learn. And the other kudo has to go to Don Hastings today. The doubt that crept in when Ali told him something he didn't remember was palpable. Enough with hiring ABC "stars" or some cute himbo/bimbette to boost story. USE OUR VETS. They deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted August 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 14, 2009 The same here. Kathleen Widdoes was the star of today's show. I've always loved her. And I agree she is pure oldschool ATWT. I actually agree with you about Van, sorry Chitown, but I thought Van was awful today. His acting hasn't been good in a long time. His scenes with Kathleen were cringe worthy at best. His holding back tears was just as bad. I thought Noelle did ok. I wish Martha had been in the role. You know Martha would have gone all out for it. Don Hastings....it was that "look" that he gave Ali. I know what scene you are talking about PJ. Yes, the vets deliver....Use them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChiTownBoi03 Posted August 15, 2009 Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 Well ok I suppose i'm the odd man out today. All good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted August 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 LOL...I've just gotten over my Van phase. I think too much Silbermann hasn't been good for his acting skills and choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EastMA2 Posted August 15, 2009 Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 Bravo to Kathleen Widdoes! A true pro. Hansis and especially Silbermann wouldn't have a clue about subtext. That is what separates the pro from the stiff actor who just states the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted August 15, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 Widdoes could read the newspaper and be more entertaining than some of the actors on ATWT right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 15, 2009 Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 I know they have no budget but I hope they can bring at least 1 or 2 Snyder siblings back for the funeral. If they can't they need to at least have a scene where Emma says, "Caleb and Seth already came back the last time Holden 'died'. They said call them in a year if he hasn't turned up." This is such an interesting commercial from 1986. Can you imagine any soap today having a promo bragging about a strong female character? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOfd3vdnw4o&feature=channel_page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted August 15, 2009 Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 With Lisa Brown just returning to GL, they should've at least gotten her. But yes, the lack of Snyder siblings (there are so many!) bothers me. Not just for Holden's death, but I hate that none of them ever return or are mentioned. Why can't it be like Y&R where Traci or Todd come back here and there? I'd love to see some of them sometime instead of all these short term characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 15, 2009 Members Share Posted August 15, 2009 I'm hoping now that Lisa is back on P&G soaps they can bring her onto ATWT briefly before ATWT is gone. Iva is such a special character and Lisa is a soap actress like few others. I hope they at least say why the Snyder sibs won't be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 I've been having problems with my internet connections so I just finally watched mondays episode! It was fabulous. Right now ATWT is my favorite soap again. I'm glad that it's watchable towards the end of it's run. I want to see the show out, but it was just so bad the past year or two. One thing I will say is that Jake and Van are the weakest part of the show right now. Their story is the weakest and I don't think any of their stories have ever worked. Luke's coming out was good, but his acting has gone downhill since then. Jake was never a good actor and hasn't improved. They may be a supercouple, but I need them to learn how to act and get a super story. The current one isn't bad on paper and you have Forbes March, but they're dragging it down. Noelle Beck and Marie Wilson are runner ups in the bad acting department. They aren't terrible, but are very one note. Beck's acting style is very dated and she's just too glam and superficial for me to care about her. Pairing her with Damian has been the first thing to really click as Lily for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted August 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 http://www.youtube.c...h?v=IgjNpH1jQskThe new closing credits for ATWT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted August 16, 2009 Members Share Posted August 16, 2009 Boy, I miss end credits. I know it probably sounds silly, but I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 17, 2009 Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 I was just yesterday watching the end credits for Christmas 1988, when various characters read the Night Before Christmas. We got to see baby Bryant and baby Adam. I guess that clip was brutal for babies. Speaking of Adam, I'm glad they are, much too long after the fact, trying to redeem him for the horrible character assassination wrought on him by Pissant. But they don't seem to be seriously addressing what he did, which means this hangs over the air as if they think just bringing it up is enough. We get scenes like this. Casey: You terrorized Maddie and Gwen! You're an attempted rapist! Adam: Yes, but that's not what we're talking about. What's important is you being a big meanie to Allison. I just don't think this works. I would even settle for a "they cut the bad out" storyline. It worked on GL with Edmund, at least until the idiots there (currently on their way to ATWT) ruined him again in 2004-2005. I wish Susan were involved, but I do like the idea of Allison trying to help Bob and getting caught in so much fallout. I just would like to see slower pacing. They rushed through so much on Friday's show, and they seemed to think Scott Holmes yelling every line was enough to make up for it. I could also do without: Adam: You're going to keep quiet about Bob nearly killing his wife? You're such an amazing, special person! Even if she was, that's such horrible clunky exposition. I don't think it's all that noble to continue to allow Bob to be involved in a case that could end with him killing Kim. The harder choice would be to speak up. Like I said, I do like the idea of the story, and even though Marnie I can't spell her last name is a somewhat boring actress, she held her own with Don Hastings and she has very expressive eyes. Most of the scenes involving Bob and Kim were very good. The Meg/Emma scenes after Holden's "death" were also quite good. One of the reasons I stopped watching ATWT on a regular basis during the Sheffer/Passante years was if I kept watching regularly, something would repulse me and I was too emotionally connected to the show to keep taking in all the trash they left strewn across the once beautiful Oakdale countryside. I have started back again, because I want to keep up with ATWT until its gone. I do think the show has improved somewhat, the good stories are good and the bad stories are just boring. I hope they further improve and manage to avoid cancellation, if that's possible. With Kriezman on the way, they'll need a lot of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted August 17, 2009 Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 Lily's "grief" seems so fake to me. And note to directors...if a five year old actor can barely string a sentence together, just have him "told" of his father's death off-screen. It'll be a lot more powerful if we hear that little Ethan doesn't understand than seeing how lame it looks. And wow---I hate sounding like a bitch about a five yr. old. But I'm not blaming him---that's on the director. Three cheers to Rosanna for pointing out the obvious to Parker---Libby can't have it both ways. It felt so good having "normal" Parker back. *snort* Libby's doin' it in broad daylight at the "back to school/end of summer picnic"?? Yeah...nothing a Ciccone likes more than a reputation. "Juicy" Janet would approve. Hiss---Craig's indignant at the thought of him snaring a 20-something?? GMAFB...wasn't he just doing Dani---his ex-stepdaughter for five seconds 20-plus years ago---when he came back to town in Dec? And what about his one-nighter with Jen a couple of years ago? Another former stepdaughter who'd actually dated his son?? If TIIC want to insist he's "in love with Carly"---fine. But don't strain yourselves bending over backwards forgetting the very recent history you've just established. FCOL, both Carly and Ro are significantly younger than Craig---or where before several "tweaks" of history and recasts. The only real positive of the Holden story---Kathleen Widdoes shined again today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted August 17, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 17, 2009 No mention of Van or Jake ...PJ??? I'm shocked!!...LOL Today's show wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I am also glad to have stable Parker back. It looks like Damian is going to be up to his old self soon..lol. I guess nice Damian will be gone soon...if not already...LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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