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Y&R: Episodes Discussion for the week June 22

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Ditto..I mean I didn't want like a CE clone(I wish CE would have stayed), but at least someone that looked to be the same age or similar to him.

He's only a year younger than Joshua Morrow and 2 years from Amelia Heinle. The SORASing of Adam was ridiculous to begin with but he looks his age and just as old as they do.

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New Adam looks like he could be the son of Hope and Victor. It's his pointy nose. :)

He does have a striking resemblance to Signy Coleman (Hope) especially.

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  • Love the new Adam. He's amazing. And yes, he does have chemistry with Vail. In fact they had a a sweet scene together. He's got the depth, the pathos, that's needed for the character. Engen had that Tom Cruise thing that made everyone love him, but this guy is the real deal. YAY! Poor guy though - he had no time to get in shape for a shirtless scene. Shame on them for making him do that!
  • Nick asked Noah if he's going to keep mooching off his grandpa? I take back what I said - Noah go get emancipated from that jerk of a dad.
  • I always knew they were waiting for the recast before they had MJ and Adam intersect. Good choice. And poor MJ, now Victor thinks she's the gaslighter! poor MJ.... :(
  • Previews for tomorrow - WOW!!!!!!!!

I feel it is too early to say Muhney had chemistry with Bloom. We'll see. But what a first day of work!

Please let Adam and Mary Jane work together to procure Sharon's "destiny westiny" baby and give it to Ashley. I love how Adam blames Victor for his blindness...because Victor's insistence that Adam be imprisoned made him stab himself in the eyes.

Rafe's shocked face in tomorrow's previews did look good! Holy Friday Cliffhanger, Batman!

And Nick. MOOCHING?? Now Nick needs to die.

I hate having to watch court scenes involving Heather. She always has this smug annoying look on her face that makes me want to break something.

Vail is not served by sanctimony. When she's Adam's hot chick, she's in her element.

Yes. That was completely unforgivable in my book. :lol:

Fisher almost being killed by a T-bone in the street? Outrageous! Definitely signalled that the MAB regime was not sympathetic to Gloria. But hilarious!

I love them as long as it's not overdone or too cutsey (like in the case of the Lane dog). But I adore Zapato and I thought Noah having Fisher was a good idea.

I love pets on the show. I especially loved puppy Zapato during the epilepsy days.

I thought Fisher was created during the strike? My memouries of him go back to the time when Gloria and Jeffrey first lived in the poolhouse, as Jack, Sharon, and Noah lived in the main house.

Ji Min was a totally dropped plot, but didn't Maria try to tie it into the David Chow crap? Of course, it was one of Latham's many dropped plots.

They tied Ji Min and Chow. But I wish they'd used that mob to tie up [ a ] the Plum-Carson money and murder, and [ b ] Nick's plane crash. They could have pinned all that on Chow/Palin, rather than leaving these plots temptingly dangling for the current regime.

I do often wonder what was in Tom Fisher's safe deposit box.

I was surprised that it was announced as simply "ADAM" and not Adam Newman or Adam Wilson. I don't recall recasts ever not being identified by his/her characters first and last name.

On Y&R, my recollection is that first names were often used for these announcements. But I could be wrong. Darn, though, I miss Bern Bennett.

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The news about Farrah Fawcett and Michael Jackson really shook me. I found it hard to focus on Y&R today.

IMO, a recast for another character basically means a "new" character, which is fine. MM is not my ideal for the role, but I certainly wish him well. Since he does look older, I would like to see TPTB acknowledge that and shift Adam's story a bit. Instead of a Rafe/Adam/Heather triangle, how about P3/Adam/Mary Jane? Also, MM doesn't favor EB in looks or mannerisms but he does share a similarity to Josh Morrow in looks and age, so why not play up the Nick/Adam rivalry a bit more? Mary Jane/Adam teaming up against Nick/Phyllis could be interesting. On superficial note, I don't find him hot but that's all subjective. I do wish MAB could contrive some shirtless scenes for JT for those of us who like the pretty boys.

It showed on screen, and I believe Tom Casiello said in one of his blogs that when he was writing for the show during the Latham era, he sometimes had ONE day to turn in a breakdown, when the process is supposed to be longer. So, what kind of planning is that?

Wow. That's crazy. Why would that be the case?

Nick's amnesia was also dropped during the Latham era, as well as who was behind that plane crash, and that was in the beginning of 2007. Who I am supposed to blame for that? Or is Latham absolved from any blame for things that happened under her regime?

They should pick up the plane crash again and clearly resolve the issue of Summer's paternity once and for all.

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Wow. That's crazy. Why would that be the case?

Poor management from the show's HW and EP, who at that particular time was Latham. Casiello mentioned in his blog that sometimes he had a few hours or one day to turn in a breakdown, which is NOT the norm in daytime or on any well-manged writing team. It certainly was apparent on the show, IMO. Very little was written for the long-term, hence writers have a few hours or one day to turn into their work. I'm not the biggest fan of MAB, but she's a much better manager of writers than Lynn Latham ever was. I hear breakdowns are now written as much as two months in advance, while it was merely a few weeks with Latham, there's still a lot of problems, but not to the extent of the Latham era when it comes to long-term storytelling and detailed planning.

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Watching the Victor/Victoria scenes today they have really softened Victor last year this time Victor was reminding her who he was and who she was and asking her "you got that!?" after each reminder

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Have to say that i was slightly underwhelmed with MM today. He didnt seem as natural as i thought he would be. BUT this is only day one, and I have confidence that over time, he will win me over. But for right now, im already missing CE.

Tomorrow looks hot tho! Cant wait!

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This show has gone from being the highlight of my day to a necessary break from Sun Stroke.

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I hope the show won't do the same to Mary Jane as they did to Adam. You don't have to have psychos to keep the plot going, and in MJ's case, she's a much more viable character than half the people she's used to generate sympathy for. They can still have her with an edge but there's no need to sacrifice her for Sharon or Phyllis or Victor or any more baby drama.

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I feel it is too early to say Muhney had chemistry with Bloom. We'll see. But what a first day of work!

It is early, but I did think their scene was pretty sexy. Strangely, I thought MM played Adam as much more tender than CE. With CE I always wondered why Heather didn't sense something was wrong. I felt he played up the distance Adam was feeling.

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Rafe's shocked face in tomorrow's previews did look good! Holy Friday Cliffhanger, Batman!

On Y&R, my recollection is that first names were often used for these announcements. But I could be wrong. Darn, though, I miss Bern Bennett.

I LOVE the expression on Rafe's face... he seemed so lonely and hungry for affection (I am in LOVE with Yani Gellman), I bet that is going to play heavily into Adam being able to convince him he's not behind the gaslighting. And boy.. do I miss Bern Bennett, too. I especially miss his deep mellow voice at the end.. "Join us again... for the YOUNG.... and the Restless". And of course, in the early days, that statement was followed by, "Stay tuned for Search For Tomorrow, next over most of these CBS stations". You know, I have on tape a 1985 episode where Terry Lester was subbed for by another man, and Bern is saying... "Due to illness... the part of Jack is being played by.. blah blah blah.." no last name of character was used.

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And Mark... I also can't say how thrilled I am that Rafe is on the canvas. Now I'm finally able to to experience the romantic fantasies that are such a big appeal for soaps. I remember how my mother would have hers about Brock... and I would too... but there was always this "wall" because the character was straight. Now, that I'm able to experience the romantic fantasy in a truly deep and real way, after 35 years... it's the best feeling in the world. And having a mother I can share that with is just icing on the cake. Even if the SL writing is not the best, having him there and accesible on my screen is something I've longed for since I was little, and would kiss the pictures of Shaun Cassidy on my wall every night before I went to bed.

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And Mark... I also can't say how thrilled I am that Rafe is on the canvas. Now I'm finally able to to experience the romantic fantasies that are such a big appeal for soaps. I remember how my mother would have hers about Brock... and I would too... but there was always this "wall" because the character was straight. Now, that I'm able to experience the romantic fantasy in a truly deep and real way, after 35 years... it's the best feeling in the world. And having a mother I can share that with is just icing on the cake. Even if the SL writing is not the best, having him there and accesible on my screen is something I've longed for since I was little, and would kiss the pictures of Shaun Cassidy on my wall every night before I went to bed.

That's sweet. I'm happy for you Alphan. I happen to think Rafe is going to come off sympathetic in this story.

I for one will be happy for him when Prince Charming shows up

and I do believe that will happen.

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I was surprised that it was announced as simply "ADAM" and not Adam Newman or Adam Wilson. I don't recall recasts ever not being identified by his/her characters first and last name.

VM's Eden, RK's Mac and CK's Lily (when she returned) were only referred to by their first names in the announcements too.

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