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Y&R: Week of May 25, 2009


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Exactly! They gave TS plenty material and she never delivered, IMO. They never tried to give this to VB. Instead they chose to put her into a position that nobody can see her in and have her sue all of their favorite characters.

Yeah! :wub:

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While you are right, I confess in my head I have chosen to make it a positive (Engen quits a job that was making him crazy; the show and the fans get a new take on Adam with an actor who is thrilled to be there). And, a lot of discussion was had (not all constructive, but still) about attitudes to GLBT in America and entertainment.

Plus, isn't the old saw "there is no such thing as bad publicity"?

Well, all the examples you cite are of "sweet princesses". But I see Vail more as Sharon Case/Katherine Kelly Lang. By which I mean...there is a sweetness and an intention to do good...but also a single-minded obsessiveness about the "soul mate"...and a very sexual nature. It is this package that I feel Vail could rock.

You know, I have regular debates with someone on usenet about Kevin "coming out of the closet" (especially because the closet has been so explicit in his life). The problem I have is that he has been written as resolutely straight...I never even felt subtext going the other way. I know the rumors about Rikaart, but it doesn't feel to me true to the writing to make Kevin anything but straight at this point.

But I'm afraid to even post the last paragraph because I don't want to get into any more "gay agenda" wars... :)

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Amen. Another reason to make the character a model.

DA on Y&R is a THANKLESS role. Give it back to Glenn Richards. Always sanctimonious, going after the wrong people.

Wow. I'm surprised you're on board with this. We fight so hard about this issue over at Usenet. Yes, AL's Colleen just smouldered, didn't she?

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I don't know what to say. For someone to post such unbelievable lies and for you to jump on the train right in a nanosecond is just... Wow.

But nevermind. This is a thread about Y&R. People don't want to read this.

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Well, people can deal with it. I'm pretty sure I don't have a gay agenda. My agenda is drama and mixing things up brings the drama. If they are going to keep Kevin straight, then I want him to do more love scenes. He really sold that elevator scene to me, he looked like he was having fun. I need more of that.

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I always liked Adrianne Leon in the role. I was upset when she was fired. She and Kevin had great chemistry. Such a wasted opportunity only to have him paired with awful Jana.

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