With all this talk i can't wait to see today's show. Loving Dark Adam.

Edited May 12, 200916 yr by Antoyne

This thread is SO much more entertaining than it was this morning.

"No! You're wrong! It sucks!"

"No! You're wrong! It's enjoyable!"

"No! It blows! MAB is hack!"

"No! She's not! I like it!"

"You're wrong!"

"No, you're wrong!"

:lol:

But, yeah, at least people are finally seeing that she does kinda suck!

:lol:

But, yeah, at least people are finally seeing that she does kinda suck!

This is why the Y&R thread is eight thousand pages. I've never seen people get SO divisive over a writer before. Ever. It's like there are two camps waging war over whether or not she sucks, and damnit, they're going to hammer home all of their points (on both sides of the argument) until the other side changes their mind. Come hell or high water.

Edited May 12, 200916 yr by brimike

What's wrong, dmarex? I hope you feel better soon.

You know when you have a couple of bad days and then one REALLY disgusting day.... and then you start thinking about all things wrong on Y&R and realize that you probably just shouldn't think about it or you'll get even more depressed....... Anyway, back to Y&R talk...

The show is enjoyable, but when you look at things overall you see so many loopholes it hurts...

I hope everything works out, dmarex. We all love you!

Wow Y&RWorldTurner. I didn't know you had it in you.

Perhaps MAB should kill someone else off, since it seems as if that is the only time she's at the top of her game.

If that's so, then they might as well change the show's title to "The Young and the Eternally Rested."

Wow Y&RWorldTurner. I didn't know you had it in you.

What are you talking about specifically?

This is why the Y&R thread is eight thousand pages. I've never seen people get SO divisive over a writer before. Ever. It's like there are two camps waging war over whether or not she sucks, and damnit, they're going to hammer home all of their points (on both sides of the argument) until the other side changes their mind. Come hell or high water.

No, no, no... You're not getting out of this one!!!

You have to state your opinion. No matter how wishy-washy, undecided it is.

Just because it's more watchable than most other soaps, that doesn't take away from its general mediocrity.

This show has some major problems that aren't being addressed by TPTB and a lot don't like discussing them here.

Well, I think mediocrity is the appropriate average level of aspiration for a soap.

Before you all gasp in horror, remember what an assembly line these shows are. Remember what incredible pressures there are to produce on a shoestring. The most we can hope for, IMO, are moments of greatness. In the end, though, this is a programming genre that needs to sell adult diapers and children's diapers and pain relievers and floor scrubbers. So, you can't script anything too brilliant -- too thought provoking. If it demands too much energy and attention, the soap-buyers won't have time or motivation to watch. This needs to be wallpaper...light entertainment that doesn't demand too much. That is the definition of mediocrity, but it works with the form and timeslot.

Y&R has those flashes of transcendent greatness, IMO. Kay's funeral episode, and Marge's farewell episode, were terrific examples of that, IMO. Pure entertainment, a little shocking... I think Kay's funeral was a demonstration of what only Y&R can do at this point, since it is still so directly connected to its history, legacy characters, and plot through-lines.

But whom, that you can identify, do you see as unwilling to discuss Y&R's problems? I don't see any such censorship or resistance here.

If that's so, then they might as well change the show's title to "The Young and the Eternally Rested."

LMAO

Yep, too many deaths already, and all courtesy of MAB. Funny since the crime rate in Genoa City got better... it seems the Death rate got worse. She'll be killing off more people, soon, trust me.

No, no, no... You're not getting out of this one!!!

You have to state your opinion. No matter how wishy-washy, undecided it is.

I gave my opinion in the Week of May 4th Y&R thread.

Really, Sylph. Try and keep up.

I gave my opinion in the Week of May 4th Y&R thread.

Really, Sylph. Try and keep up.

How the hell do you think I'm going to find that when MAB is a three-letter word and SON's search engine requires four minimum!!!

Y'all post too much, LoL.

MTS will be on ET Canada tonight

This is why the Y&R thread is eight thousand pages. I've never seen people get SO divisive over a writer before. Ever. It's like there are two camps waging war over whether or not she sucks, and damnit, they're going to hammer home all of their points (on both sides of the argument) until the other side changes their mind. Come hell or high water.

You know, I actually think LML inspired more DIVIDED opinion (mostly in the hate camp, especially at the end). I think MAB inspires more COMPLEX opinions. Even the "lovers" see areas of weakness, and even the "not lovers" acknowledge her areas of improvement and rebuilding. The ambivalence is not just across "camps", but within individuals themselves.

You know when you have a couple of bad days and then one REALLY disgusting day.... and then you start thinking about all things wrong on Y&R and realize that you probably just shouldn't think about it or you'll get even more depressed....... Anyway, back to Y&R talk...

The show is enjoyable, but when you look at things overall you see so many loopholes it hurts...

I hope this is unrelated to those terrible exams from a few weeks ago. If yes, the good thing is that it is always possible to try again and do better the next time!

Historigasms.