Members AdelaideCate007 Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) I think i posted about it here, but I can speak/understand Russian so I watched some footage of the news on their state news network and it was insane. They were calling him not just Golden Boy but "our darling Trump", "our marvelous Trump", and "our wonderful Trump". They also discussed about how Trump has a "weakness for blondes" and will do away with "irritating things" like democracy and will promote Russia to all of America. Edited January 11, 2017 by AdelaideCate007 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 They know they have a fool on their hands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 My mother just called me crying about Obama's farewell address. I'm not ready to watch this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) To be clear: the report details the trending tag on Twitter - Trump on tape with Russian prostitutes, under surveillance as he requests 'golden showers.' He is likely also financially in the hole to Russia, as we all know. Buzzfeed ran the full documents, which were compiled by ex-MI6 officers last year. The FBI briefed people on this, including the President and McCain and likely other members of Congress. Seth Meyers, of all people, just grilled Kellyanne Conway on this on his late show. Edited January 11, 2017 by Vee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 Why aren't the allegations of the two Trump surrogates and intermediaries of the Russian government the lede? This is something that should not be buried. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 ^ I keep seeing that it's "unconfirmed", not sure how that can be if they documents are out there. Hopefully, we'll know more tomorrow. I think this is somehing that actually has legs though unlike so many of the previous scandals that Trump outlived. Here's hoping anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 CNN is running with it, and the intelligence community briefed the President. Major officials are cosigning CNN's story. It's real. From the Guardian. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 It would be a lengthy and ugly process to get there, and Pence isn't all that easy to control either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 That doesn't mean Trump should be allowed to stay in office. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 Considering the damage they did to Hillary when she did nowhere near what he did in terms of questioning and undermining, it seems to me that these agencies are now just going rogue whenever they see fit. It's disturbing to me. This scandal already seems like an excuse for people to tell jokes rather than something that's actually going to have an impact. I have a feeling they would have done the same if she won as well. I don't think he ever should have been elected, but I don't believe Pence is going to be any better. I think he's become some kind of generic savior to many, when his record is just the opposite. If the stories from a few months ago are true, a lot was his fault (face-saving and whatever else), but many of the problems stemmed from some New York branch who repeatedly spent their time leaking and digging for info against Hillary even when ordered to stop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) So Buzzfeed put out a lot of documents and pretty much said "Oh by the way this might not be true." And that's what led to all this about Trump and golden showers? The guy who published them even outright said there's strong reason to not believe any of this? https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/10/buzzfeed-publishes-donald-trump-russia-documents-ethics-questions Even if it is true, what an awful precedent this sets. If major news outlets decide to start being even more blatant in pushing outright lies about Democrats (as a number of them danced around with Hillary), how many are going to have a leg to stand on in criticizing it after they ran with this stuff? Edited January 11, 2017 by DRW50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 It's more than that. The Post, CNN, CBS and NBC corroborated it with government officials, and the original report itself was presented by our intelligence agencies to the President. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 Did they corroborate everything Buzzfeed put out that seems to have gotten all the attention? Otherwise it's mostly just been a clown car distracting from the real issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 There is no way the timid Washington media would put this story on television about an incoming (Republican) President unless they'd cross-checked it. And the report, after being passed to the FBI and deemed credible, was presented by our intelligence people to Obama. That doesn't happen over nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 11, 2017 Members Share Posted January 11, 2017 I get the feeling they pushed it out because other outlets already had and they were stealing the spotlight. I can believe it's true, but a lot of the details themselves sound cobbled together and mostly an excuse to get clicks and laughs, which is exactly what happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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