The Politics Thread

[marceline]

Carl, you're spiralling. Maybe it's time to tap out for a little while.

This op to oust Biden has failed. The backlash has just begun and it's fierce. Meanwhile Gaza isn't an issue anymore because most of that was astroturfed too. Meanwhile the GOP has no money, no ground game, and Donald Trump hasn't had a public event in 10 days.

[DramatistDreamer]

Christopher Bouzy, founder of Spoutible published a pretty detailed thread chain listing all of the anti-Biden Op-Ed pieces, some going back nearly a decade. This isn’t new. There is also an existing effort to try to force out VP Harris, because they likely know that Biden, like any president has a Vice President for a reason (there was also an Op-Ed that called for Biden to step down as VP, with some pretty bizarre suggestions for alternatives). If folks really want to focus on stability of the executive branch, they would realize that Biden has a solid VP in case anything should arise, like any president. 
 

Meanwhile, there is little to no ink being spilled on the very real, very destructive Project 2025 and Trump is getting away with his very weak unconvincing protestations of any links between him and Project 2025. Democrats need to direct the same and more energy to putting Project 2025 under a microscope, the way that some put Gingrich’s Contract On America but this time with a greater sense of urgency.

Project 2025. Make it an inescapably urgent issue that voters will actually focus on.

[Vee]

 

[DRW50]

Sadly, this is pretty much just me, on a good or bad day. Hopefully we'll make it through, whatever happens.

[DRW50]

@Vee That AOC video helps drive home Biden's strategy of talking about "elites" vs the everyday person who wants him in. Of course, some on the left would say AOC is an elite, but she still probably sees the common person more than Rob Reiner, or Michael Moore, or other celebrities who are calling for him to drop out.

If they had wanted him to drop out, they should have pushed this a year ago. Polling isn't good for him now, but it wasn't great then either. Now they are just mostly generating a constant negative feedback cycle that will go nowhere, aside from when they can say we told you so in November.

[DramatistDreamer]

Because I have pretty much blocked out much of that debate, I don’t know whether this was discussed at all during that debate but the Biden administration shout be touting this as much as possible and really lay down the facts and challenge his opponent to own up to how much he weakened the US in terms of technological advancement and security and how his predecessor/opponent’s constant picking fights with China did nothing to shore up U.S.’ place in supply chain security, quite the opposite—and the Biden administration’s approach has been far more successful.

(yes, it’s the NYT, but we know that altruism about broken clocks…)

U.S. Creates High-Tech Global Supply Chains to Blunt Risks Tied to China

[marceline]

I heard on the radio this morning the RNC convention is next week. It was the first mention I've heard of it. Part of me thinks that part of this anti-Biden feeding frenzy has been about reducing expectations for Trump next week. It was a pre-emptive strike.

I want protesters to show up dressed in shark costumes and pictures of Hannibal Lechter with "Trump thinks I'm real" scrawled across them.

The RNC is going to be a circus so the media decided to try and force a brokered DNC convention.

[Gray Bunny]

I'd like to see protesters with signs calling him out on being a child molester of 12-year-old girls. 

[Khan]

I'd like to see protesters with signs saying, "You're not rich!"

(Trust me, that'll get his proverbial goat more than anything.)

[I Am A Swede]

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[DramatistDreamer]

I absolutely think that this is at play. Whether mainstream news outlets are knowingly playing along or asleep at the wheel, I am not certain.

The Hunter Biden mess peeled away so they are taking this up with gusto, hoping no one remembers the felonious merchandise they’re trying to sell.

[DramatistDreamer]

This story is kind of wild. 

Hackvists release two gigabytes of Heritage Foundation data

 

[Juliajms2]

Me too. I believe he did it and I'm pretty sure it's not my bias talking. The testimony in the court transcripts sounded truthful to me. There was a lot of detail. Plus we know he has a thing for young girls and that he went to that hellhole of an island more than once. He's really a disgusting bastard who lacks a soul, but he was right when said he can do anything and his followers don't care.

Sadly, I believe Bill Gates is guilty as well. I wonder how people justify this type of predatory behavior to themselves? Those girls were practically babies.

I didn't even know about Project 2025 until recently.

[DRW50]

Sadly, that jackass tied to Trump and Project 2025 who went around boasting about how they were winning a "bloodless revolution" did more to promote their plan than the media ever would, aside from a few MSNBC anchors. Much of the media, along with the dead end left, see it as a scare tactic, something that will never happen. To them it's the new Roe v Wade overturning, something else they spent years saying would never happen and if you said it was in danger you were fearmongering. And some are already doing what they did post-Dobbs - claiming the Democrats are complicit. There's always a way to make sure the public is ill-informed. 

I have seen some people trying to point out just how much veterans will be targeted in these plans. Given how many vets vote against their own interest, I'm not sure learning of these plans would make any difference, but I hope it gets out there. 

There are never any expectations for Trump, but I do think the media is at a point where polls are going their way and the Democrats are badly divided, so they figure why rock the boat. Showing as little of Trump as possible helps get their man back in office. More importantly, it means less attention is paid to the deeply cynical and false choices he's made for the RNC platform, lying about "softening" on abortion and gay marriage. Less people knowing about it means the true believers won't be upset with him and the people who might fall for these lies won't know just how repulsive and repulsed the people who actually run the party are.

Edited July 10, 2024 by DRW50

[Maxim]

Biden has to win. He will win. Good always prevails over EVIL. That's what I believe.