Too late. It's called.

2 minutes ago, Vee said:

Too late. It's called.

 

What is?

 

Just now, Khan said:

 

What is?

 

Michigan.

 

Nevada was not going to release more info until tomorrow but due to it being a deciding factor for Biden, they said they would have more voting numbers later today.   

 

 

Biden is still down 67k in GA with 94% reporting.  

 

After all the jeering about Biden calling a lid, Trump doing so is hilarious.

3 minutes ago, Darcy said:

Biden is still down 67k in GA with 94% reporting.  

 

It's 58K now.

 

 

Did you see that white mob in Detroit chanting “Stop the count!” directly outside where they are counting the vote?  
 

In NYC there is a march down 5th Avenue now chanting “Count Every Vote”.

 

Also 600k ballots left to count in Arizona and Biden only winning by 9,300 - that is why many have not called it.

Edited November 4, 20205 yr by Darcy

AP taking a long time to call Michigan, yet it took them 1 second to call Arizona.  What up with that, AP?  The fact that nobody else has called Arizona for Biden is making be a bit uneasy. 

10 minutes ago, Darcy said:

Also 600k ballots left to count in Arizona and Biden only winning by 9,300 - that is why many have not called it.

 

Fox called Arizona last night. Michigan is also called by multiple outlets and networks. I'd move on with your life.

 

Meanwhile, a good piece:

 

 

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Americans like me populate the small towns and suburbs too, as the summer of Black Lives Matter protests and Biden/Harris signs demonstrated. There are many flavors of us and many races, but the general values — appreciation for  diversity, acceptance of social change, cultural curiosity and empathy towards others — are the mainstream values of America.

 

Some of us are here as a matter of choice and some as a matter of circumstance, marginalized by immutable characteristics like race or gender identity or sexual orientation. Still, the fact that Democrats tend to win the popular vote in presidential elections over and over and over — with the 2020 result, that makes seven of the last eight — is evidence that the America that Donald Trump and his fans hate, the America they don't even want to admit is American, is mainstream America. 

 

And frankly, Trump and his minions know it. Indeed, it's exactly the mainstream nature of this more liberal, cosmopolitan strain of American culture that explains why we're seeing such fierce, outsized anger from Trump voters. It's the reason for the flag-festooned truck caravans, video tantrums about having to wear face masks in public places, lurid conspiracy theories painting Democrats as blood-drinking pedophiles and the "MAGA" slogan. It's why they are willing to back a confessed sexual assailant who is obviously a sociopath, eagerly and enthusiastically. 

 

It's because they see Trump as the vehicle to "take back" an American culture that they believe is being stolen by the rest of us, that is, the actual American majority. 

 

Win or lose in 2020, Trump has done remarkably well for a president who let 232,000 Americans die and is abandoning millions more to sickness or poverty. That may seem inexplicable to many people who despise him, but it's ultimately because his voters see themselves locked in an existential battle with the rest of us over who gets to define what kinds of people and things are truly "American." 

 

There's a lot of resistance on the left to the idea that our national crisis is over identity and culture, and not over something that's a little easier to get a handle on, like economics or ideology.

 

It's often noted in progressive circles that if you poll Americans on policy issues like universal health care or free college, broad majorities of Americans — including a plurality of Republicans — support many left-leaning and often "radical" policies. This is often taken as evidence that Democrats are losing because they're too timid, and that if they embraced a bolder, more progressive agenda, they would win. 

 

As much as my heart wants to believe that, however, it isn't true. We know that because both Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden shifted toward the left — certainly in terms of recent Democratic politics — and it did nothing to improve their vote share.

 

Which isn't to say Democrats shouldn't embrace progressive economic policies. They should, because it's the right thing to do. But there's no reason to believe it will either help or hurt their electoral chances, because there's no way to win over votes from Trump America. That 45% of the country, which has outsized power due to the Electoral College and the unfair Senate system, is simply more worried about culture-war issues than about policy. 

 

As Paul Campos at Lawyers, Guns, and Money wrote Wednesday morning, "the lesson of this election is it doesn't matter at all what a Republican president does or doesn't do — the people who vote for him literally don't care, as long as he gives them enough of what they want, and what they want is authoritarian ethno-nationalism and Owning the Libs."

 

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Even right wing America has a parasitic cultural relationship to the innovations of the same Americans they resent so much. From Trump fans dancing feebly to the Village People at his red-hat rallies to the way hip-hop beats are watered down and injected into crappy "bro country" songs by groups like the Florida-Georgia Line to whatever the hell Kid Rock is doing: The spirit of Pat Boone stays strong in this country, kept alive by people who want to steal artistic and cultural innovation from other Americans before they kick them in the face. 

 

I wish I had more answers to our problems. I wish our elections could be about boring but important issues like health care and tax policy, instead of being used as a clumsy weapon in the culture wars. I wish that the 45% of Americans who don't get or don't like the slightly hipper and definitely more diverse majority would just chill out and leave us alone. I wish there was no Fox News and no Rush Limbaugh and no white dudes with bad tattoos who channel their masculine insecurities into buying guns and longing for "tradwives" on social media.

 

But I don't. It feels like an intractable problem, being held hostage by a resentful minority who only grow more toxic and bitter because they have way too much power over our electoral system. But it's the problem we have, and we won't even start to think of solutions until we look our problem directly in the face.

 

 

Edited November 4, 20205 yr by Vee

Only on SON can we discuss Loving in the midst of politics thanks DRW50 for the biggest smile all day. 
 

When it comes to the counting it takes time it would be different if they were looking at mail that arrived after the polls closed. I hope people can stay safe.

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