1 hour ago, Khan said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't someone here (marceline?) point out that even if Trump were to pardon Manafort and Cohen, they would still face charges from NY state, which he couldn't pardon them from?  Furthermore, isn't it true that NY would be allowed to use Manafort and Cohen's arranged testimonies as evidence of their guilt?

Yes. I think it's the idea of 45 outright firing Mueller that has people alarmed, not so much a pardon for Manafort and Cohen.  I certainly see why people are concerned that our institutions won't withstand this onslaught.  It's not like the Republicans can be counted on to reign Trump in.   I feel very grateful that Trump has pissed on this counties generals time and again.

Not that you can believe anything out of lying Sanders' mouth but for the time being, they are claiming that Rosenstein is still on the job.

 

Sanders: Rosenstein still on job and will meet with Trump later this week (a source told me earlier that Rosenstein was there for previously scheduled meeting) pic.twitter.com/adjJzvdxQ7

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) September 24, 2018

^ That's good news.

 

This is not. I was hoping that CBF and DR would not have to testify.  I hope Avenatti really has what he says he has.

 

 

There has been some irresponsible reporting the past few days but this takes the cake. Rosenstein was never going to get fired today and I doubt he will Thursday.

 

Between Jonathon Swan and his Axios story this morning about Rosenstein resigning to the NYTIME being so petty about Ronan Farrow and Jane Meyer's story to try and discount it are about the 2 most disgraceful journalistic acts I have seen in recent months and that's saying a lot. The Times learned absolutely NOTHING from the Judith Miller saga.

Let's assume for the moment that individuals have indeed threatened harm against Kavanaugh and his family.  Do you mean to tell me that Kavanaugh, the "carpool dad" who coaches his daughter's basketball team, would stay the course, even if it meant subjecting his wife and children to further threats and humiliation?

 

Maybe his family urged him not to withdraw his nomination and that's why he said what he said.  That's always possible.  But, having lived for thirty-three years with a loving father who would have thrown himself on top a live grenade to protect me and my older brother, I can't see how any husband and father in his situation would think anything was more important than keeping his loved ones out of harm's way.  IMO, any other dad would say, "To hell with it, the SCOTUS ain't worth subjecting my kids to this bullshit!" and they'd withdraw.

 

But, maybe that's just me.

 

44 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

I was hoping that CBF and DR would not have to testify.

 

I was hoping the same thing.  These women are about to enter the lion's den.  May God have mercy on their souls.

 

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Not that you can believe anything out of lying Sanders' mouth but for the time being, they are claiming that Rosenstein is still on the job.

 

"For the time being" being, of course, the operative words.  I still think that man's on his way out.  And if it doesn't happen after their meeting on Thursday -- between them and Ford/Ramirez's testimonies, it's gonna be a helluva news day -- it'll happen very soon afterward.

 

3 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

It was probably more than one person on this board, tbh.  I certainly mentioned this at least once.  Yes, a pardon would do nothing to diminish the charges against him from the Southern district of New York, which is likely an outstanding factor in why he decided to cooperate with Mueller's people.  Remember, Manafort was in the process of facing 2nd trial when he cut the plea.

 

3 hours ago, marceline said:

Yep. That was me and from what I'm seeing that's still the case. Also, apparently part of Manafort's deal was protection for his wife and kids. If he accepts a pardon, that all goes away.

 

Forgot to do this earlier, but thanks, you two, for answering my questions!

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52 minutes ago, Khan said:

Let's assume for the moment that individuals have indeed threatened harm against Kavanaugh and his family.  Do you mean to tell me that Kavanaugh, the "carpool dad" who coaches his daughter's basketball team, would stay the course, even if it meant subjecting his wife and children to further threats and humiliation?

 

Forgive me if I'm not feeling much sympathy for him, when his accusers (and so many other women over the years) have been subjected to all this and worse without actually being guilty of anything.

Yes, I can feel sympathy for his wife and children, but for him?  No way!

 

52 minutes ago, I Am A Swede said:

Forgive me if I'm not feeling much sympathy for him, when his accusers (and so many other women over the years) have been subjected to all this and worse without actually being guilty of anything.

Yes, I can feel sympathy for his wife and children, but for him?  No way!

 

ICAM.  And no, I don't feel much sympathy for him.  I'm just pointing out the fact that not even his own family's safety is more important to this man than being named to the SCOTUS.

 

21 minutes ago, ReddFoxx said:

 

 

Up next: UNICEF!

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I woke up to the news that Rosenstein was 'assumed to be fired' and sensed it was another bullshit cry wolf moment for the media to get rooked by. Went to sleep for another hour, woke up again and I was right. As the Gabriel Sherman piece upthread indicates, Trump is scared and desperate. He knows he's in real danger now.

 

Meanwhile:

 

 

“IT’S DESPICABLE.” McConnell is enraged about the Supreme Court nomination battle, calling it “a choreographed smear campaign” designed to inflict “maximum damage at the last minute” upon Brett Kavanaugh. pic.twitter.com/RdIcKhsj7m

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 24, 2018

 

.@SenateMajLdr promises that Brett Kavanaugh "will receive a vote" on the Senate floor in the "near future."

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 24, 2018

LMAO:

 

 

In new letter, Kavanaugh says it's not about him. He's standing up for the "public discourse" and freedom. https://t.co/3Mg0ynl17K pic.twitter.com/VHlfWveXK2

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) September 24, 2018

You think this "smear campaign" hits a "new low," Senator McConnell?  Wait 'til they start digging up [!@#$%^&*] on you!

 

 

The only thing Kavanaugh is standing up for is his own, blasted ego, "pure and simple."

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He and his wife are on Fox tonight. That'll do the job!

Nevermind, my lazy ass googled it for a change, lol.

 

Just what does he think THAT will accomplish?  And Fox News?  Talk about "preaching to the choir"!

 

Kavanaugh's clearly too afraid to talk to the "East Coast liberal social elite media," so he goes where he KNOWS they won't ask him any real questions.

 

Whatevs, Brett.  You effing p***y.  (No offense, ladies.)

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Stand strong, Judge Kavanaugh. 

That interview will do about as much good as one asking for receipts for crack. It will only make things even worse than they already are.

Conflicting reports that there is a possible FOURTH accuser are going around, too. What a freaking shyt show this is.