22 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

In the case of Keith Ellison, Karen Monahan, his ex-girlfriend who lodged the accusation, has been trying to campaign for an Anti-Narcissistic Day on social media. She has claimed that she suffered years of narcissist abuse at the hands of Ellison. Monahan has accused Ellison of "soul-rape".

 

Others in this thread have mentioned that Monahan has made claims of documented proof yet so far, has produced none.  She presented texts to a Minnesota radio station as proof but all who examined the texts said that the texts were mostly cordial. There were a few in which Ellison had asked for a timeline of when she was going to move out (the two had lived together) and some more combative ones in which she texted about the emotional pain the breakup was causing her.

Monahan has said that she plans to write a book about their relationship.

Also, both an ex-wife of Ellison and a previous girlfriend have denied any instances of abuse.  And Ellison's current girlfriend has produced an e-mail from Monahan where Monahan accused the current girlfriend of stealing Ellison's affections from her.

 

The Ellison case is a messy messy one and in no way resembles what has transpired with Kavanaugh and this case.

I thought we who post in this Politics Thread were all fairly knowledgeable and could tell the difference.  I guess there is always one exception to every rule.

I think it's fair to say Monahan suffered obviously in some capacity and I look back at my comments realizing that abuse is not just about physical abuse  - actually most is not.

 

That said and not making excuses for Ellison, most politicians are narcissists. You almost have to be. Hopefully as Monahan has suffered, she is getting help also.

13 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

I think it's fair to say Monahan suffered obviously in some capacity and I look back at my comments realizing that abuse is not just about physical abuse  - actually most is not.

 

That said and not making excuses for Ellison, most politicians are narcissists. You almost have to be. Hopefully as Monahan has suffered, she is getting help also.

 

No doubt that Monahan has been hurt.  From an account of a high school sweetheart of Ellison's, he seems to have a tendency to move on quickly once a relationship appears to be over and that seems to be a big part of this aftermath of this one.  I too, hope that Monahan receives the help she needs. Hopefully they all are getting some type of counseling. 

 

 

On a different topic,

 

Trump appears to have boxed the U.S. into a corner in regards to North Korea. Everybody seems to know this (especially the North Koreans) except for Trump...maybe?

 

North Korea’s Trump-Era Strategy: Keep Making A-Bombs, but Quietly

10 hours ago, juppiter said:

Meanwhile, there is also an allegation against Deputy Chair of the Democratic Party Keith Ellison.

 

Guess which one the Democrats are outraged over and which one they're sweeping under the rug... the "pro-woman" party...

 

Why is it that some people accuse the Democrats of being as racist as others accuse the GOP of being, then turn around and make statements such as this?  Has Keith Ellison's skin suddenly lost all its melanin?  If the Dems are, indeed, racist, don't you think people from within the party would be working to rid themselves of this man, too?

 

10 hours ago, juppiter said:

Try arguing that she raped somebody.

 

Because, there is no such thing as a man who's been raped, right?  RIGHT?

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by Khan

Not really politics related, but Trump related, apparently Tom Arnold and Mark Burnett got into a scuffle last night, and Burnett attacked Arnold and he has a witness who corroborates this(Patton Oswalt) now Roma Downey is trying to play victim by posting a picture of an old bruise saying she got it last night. oye vey

Wait, is Patton a witness for Tom, or for Mark?

 

Where, oh where, is Della Reese or John Dye to give "Miss Wings" a reality check?

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by Khan

Ugh.

 

https://www.bustle.com/p/trump-jrs-instagram-on-the-kavanaugh-allegations-is-so-insulting-11934389

People are complaining that someone from the Ted Cruz campaign is sending out fraudulent mailers ...AGAIN.

Apparently it has happened before.

 

Received this for my 88-year-old grandma. Says it's a summons from Travis County, but is actually asking for money for @tedcruz . Did your campaign authorize this? Is this even legal? Shame on you. That's one more @BetoORourke voter. pic.twitter.com/NcFoOCvjFj

— Sean Owen (@sean_r_owen) September 16, 2018

You're right , you did -https://t.co/tLh6455DUw

— Nalini Moorthy (@KnollMoor) September 16, 2018

Ted Cruz is filth.

4 hours ago, Khan said:

Wait, is Patton a witness for Tom, or for Mark?

 

Where, oh where, is Della Reese or John Dye to give "Miss Wings" a reality check?

Sorry, he's a witness for Tom Arnold

Republican midterm enthusiasm is apparently way down - terrifying GOP pollsters - and it's apparently all because the Republican voters believe Trump's imaginary 'red wave' talk. It's Mitt Romney's 'unskewed polls' again.

 

Meanwhile:

 

 

TRUMP: "Judge Kavanaugh is one of the finest people I have ever known... never had even a little blemish on his record... At the same time, we want to go through a process. We want to make sure everything is perfect... [but] I wish the Democrats could've done this a lot sooner." pic.twitter.com/pWP5LlfvD8

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 17, 2018

WASHINGTON (AP) _ Trump says `a little delay' may be needed on Kavanaugh vote, predicts it will `work out very well'

— Ken Thomas (@KThomasDC) September 17, 2018

Manafort docs reveal he got Ben Shapiro to write propaganda for Breitbart in 2012 to help his Putin-linked interests in Ukraine. Ha. Ah ha ha ha. Ah hahahahahahahaha. pic.twitter.com/XU28JGa4JJ

— Cody Johnston (@drmistercody) September 15, 2018

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by Vee

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell just walked into his office in the Capitol. I asked him whether he believes Ford’s allegations, whether she or Kavanaugh should testify before the Judiciary Committee and whether he still supports his nomination.

He did not respond.

— Sean Sullivan (@WaPoSean) September 17, 2018

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by Vee

I've already seen people trying to dig up stuff on Ford's parents, on her brother...

 

No wonder the poor woman wanted to stay anonymous. 

22 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I've already seen people trying to dig up stuff on Ford's parents, on her brother...

 

No wonder the poor woman wanted to stay anonymous. 

Yes. The death threats and rape threats will follow, of course. I feel badly for her. I'd say her first instinct was probably right and it would have been in her personal best interest not to tell.

Tomi Lahren is purely evil.

That is all. 

Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing Monday. This is a huge deal.

— Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) September 17, 2018